From: Thierry Carrez <koon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:00:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home>
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Preemptive
> Users should be told of changes *before* they break the user's system,
> not after the damage has already been done.
I think that's one of the key points...
> Notification that new relevant news items will be displayed via the
> ``emerge`` tool in a similar way to the existing "configuration files need
> updating" messages:
>
> * Important: 3 config files in /etc need updating.
> * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.
>
> * Important: there are 5 unread news items.
> * Type emerge --help news to learn how to read news files.
Aren't those messages displayed after the damage is done ? Typical use :
- emerge --sync run as a daily cron job
- emerge -a mysql
- great, a new version is there. Typing "Yes"
- system gets borken
- emerge spits out message saying 14 files need updating and there is 1
unread news item
I'm probably missing something here. Please elaborate on how this GLEP
meets the "Preemptive" design goal...
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Thierry Carrez (Koon)
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Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-01 1:51 [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 2:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 2:19 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01 2:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 2:25 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 2:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 3:02 ` Alec Warner
2005-11-01 3:21 ` pclouds
2005-11-01 2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2005-11-01 2:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 2:39 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01 8:25 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-01 11:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 9:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-01 12:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 10:00 ` Thierry Carrez [this message]
2005-11-01 10:45 ` Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:13 ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-01 12:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 11:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " John Myers
2005-11-01 11:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:16 ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 12:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:39 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 13:32 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 18:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 0:45 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 0:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:05 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:25 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-06 19:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-01 13:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2005-11-01 13:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 14:07 ` Re[2]: " Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-02 20:49 ` Eldad Zack
2005-11-01 14:38 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 0:54 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 13:54 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:23 ` Christian Birchinger
2005-11-01 18:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 19:20 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 19:36 ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-01 19:44 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-01 20:36 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:16 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-01 18:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 16:22 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 18:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 21:57 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 22:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02 1:29 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-02 0:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02 11:26 ` Michiel de Bruijne
2005-11-02 14:19 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-02 18:33 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-02 22:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-03 9:59 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 14:26 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 21:30 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 21:33 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-05 0:13 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:59 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-05 0:11 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-05 1:30 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-03 13:54 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 14:24 ` pclouds
2005-11-03 13:49 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 19:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 0:29 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 0:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:02 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:24 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:36 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:46 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04 1:53 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 2:30 ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-04 21:37 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 1:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:55 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 3:06 ` Qian Qiao
2005-11-04 9:06 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:21 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:04 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:05 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:46 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 17:08 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:29 ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-04 17:29 ` Jon Portnoy
2005-11-08 3:16 ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-10 20:29 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04 1:33 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-04 1:41 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:43 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 9:12 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 12:32 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-04 13:34 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:03 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 1:43 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04 1:52 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 9:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:07 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 1:50 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 5:30 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 21:50 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-06 22:11 ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04 9:02 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 13:38 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 15:55 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-07 10:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:19 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:02 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 15:58 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:41 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:57 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:07 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 17:15 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 2:08 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-04 2:18 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 5:44 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 8:32 ` John Myers
2005-11-04 9:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 10:15 ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-04 13:18 ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04 13:46 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:27 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 16:08 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 8:21 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-04 9:55 ` Tres Melton
2005-11-04 16:35 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-04 16:52 ` Grobian
2005-11-04 17:10 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 19:34 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04 14:37 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 18:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 19:12 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 20:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 22:00 ` Jan Kundrát
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