From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EWdM6-0002Xf-Fh for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:21:58 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9VHKu6S031088; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:20:56 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9VHHitc003562 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:17:44 GMT Received: from align.cns.ksu.edu ([129.130.0.165]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EWdI0-0007hW-Be for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:17:44 +0000 Message-ID: <436651B8.2020108@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:17:44 -0600 From: Lance Albertson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting Important Updates To Users References: <200510301642.39469.chriswhite@gentoo.org> <4364EC47.8050803@gentoo.org> <1130722932.8550.33.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <1130768528.26789.70.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <43662CD9.2000405@gentoo.org> <1130777404.10549.16.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> In-Reply-To: <1130777404.10549.16.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8D565D839D819828CAD4D11A" X-Archives-Salt: cac66446-ed6e-4f30-b205-cc33146835be X-Archives-Hash: 70a31c0d1852fa7cf4f378f8f2c96851 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8D565D839D819828CAD4D11A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 08:40 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>Well, I think that if users knew that information would be on these >>>places, they might actually check them. Currently, little to no >>>information ever makes it to either of these locations, so users never >>>bother to check them. If we were to change that, I'm sure users would >>>eventually pick up on the fact. >> >>I would agree with Chris here too. As long as we start using this >>channel more and we get the word out, folks will start to be more >>attentive to it. We can't satisfy every user out there and I think this >>channel has a good chance of working. > > > It would be great if emerge --news displayed the same news as www.g.o. > > I don't see www.g.o on its own solving the problem of getting news out > to all our users. How are you going to tell them that www.g.o and > gentoo-announce now carries much more news? Post the news on there, or > in GWN, the forums, this mailing list, etc etc? Aren't those the very > places where we've already learned that not enough of our users look? > > I started this discussion because I've experienced that the percentage > of users who read our existing news outlets isn't high enough to reach > many of them in the first place ;-) Implementing --news will take time. Implementing more news on our site now takes little work and can be easily done. Outside of these two options, what is better? I'd say a constant reminder in the GWN would be helpful. Maybe we could add a big news warning in the next minor portage update that when you tells you about the new news features (perhaps a big einfo after you upgrade. I know thats not the best solution either, but I dont' foresee --news becoming a reality for a while. -- Lance Albertson Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net --------------enig8D565D839D819828CAD4D11A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDZlG4QW+hXSf0t0IRAhppAKDC5sNpR2uw5rLxUdVgrLsz2Yg3fACfWFtN qBkz/Rrf13ebEIFR7UYn8pM= =/URy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8D565D839D819828CAD4D11A-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list