From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EUSuH-0001qt-4V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:48:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9PHkwv0016407; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:46:58 GMT Received: from egr.msu.edu (jeeves.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.127]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9PHiESq026388 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:44:15 GMT Received: from [35.9.132.144] (nagoya.dhcp.egr.msu.edu [35.9.132.144]) by egr.msu.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9PHiBc8003655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <435E6EE3.6020504@egr.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:44:03 -0400 From: Alec Joseph Warner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies. References: <1130199485.1413.3.camel@Darkmere.darkmere> <435DB66F.9060807@gentoo.org> <20051025161915.GE23614@bmb24.uth.tmc.edu> <435DFAB1.90603@gentoo.org> <20051025174146.7af88898@snowdrop.home> <435E6886.5060708@gentoo.org> <20051025182531.5eb4b9a9@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20051025182531.5eb4b9a9@snowdrop.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b5a5d665-f804-485d-b3ed-103817b7f278 X-Archives-Hash: dce39d271f1f8f7a5f7c86d3f4a98579 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:16:54 -0600 Joshua Baergen > wrote: > | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | >RDEPEND lists the things that are needed to use a package once it is > | >installed. > | > | Maybe RDEPEND is insufficient to properly describe a library > | package. I see a big difference between using and compiling against > | a library. I realize you need to compile against it to use it, but > | that's certainly not a run-time dependency. > > Well yes, we already know we need a few dozen more new dependency > atoms. But we're dealing with "what we can use currently" here, not > some hypothetical future situation. > So define what you need to meet your goals, hell define your goals and agree on them ( or at least a subset ). Right now you are just arguing back and forth over this small issue. What other issues does the current system impose? What do you suggest to fix them? What manner of "few dozen more new dependency atoms" are needed and what do they do? How can you reconcile the goals of compiling against library headers vs embedded's space need? With the ideal case decided you can A. Move gentoo to get closer to that case; and B. Know the deficiencies in the current implementation. Right now it just looks like a bunch of people bickering over a policy issue. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list