From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFRxK-0004PZ-PG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:45:23 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8E7durU022749; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:39:56 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8E7c2LN021560 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:38:03 GMT Received: from user.scort.com ([213.41.103.70] helo=[10.1.10.18]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EFRum-0007Ai-Ae for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 07:42:44 +0000 Message-ID: <4327D473.5030806@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:42:43 +0200 From: Thierry Carrez Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050728) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC References: <4325D12A.5050601@gentoo.org> <43278936.50909@ieee.org> <20050914031019.GA1496@cerberus.oppresses.us> <200509140004.58256.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200509140004.58256.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 92cff693-89ae-4cc4-9dbc-5c7a6e5d8130 X-Archives-Hash: 028bfc258ecae02d3ac13c372e250ad5 Mike Frysinger wrote: >>As far as devrel goes, call me a traditionalist but I think while infra >>should be able to do emergency deactivations (and afaik nobody's ever >>said they shouldn't) devrel should continue to be responsible for >>disciplinary issues including repeated QA violations reported by the QA >>team > > works for me ... best to keep the number of 'bad guys' down to a min :D +1 Let QA handle QA and devrel handle developer relations. If devrel processes take too much time that's something that should be improved inside devrel, not by splitting devrel role onto multiple projects. Before debating if the QA team should have more power to enforce, let's just have a proper QA project. Apparently not much devs want to do QA, not sure telling them they will do QA+police will help in motivating them. -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list