From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9K1Q-00044g-RN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:04:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7SA1qS7006917; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:01:52 GMT Received: from buggy.blubb.ch (range21-65.shlink.ch [217.148.7.65]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7S9xRW6026915 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:59:27 GMT Received: from aqua ([192.168.10.5]) by buggy.blubb.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1E9Jx0-00076A-Gy for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:59:42 +0200 Message-ID: <43118B66.8030503@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:01:10 +0200 From: Simon Stelling User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] crap use flags in the profiles References: <20050825000442.GC1701@nightcrawler> <431036EA.8050401@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <431036EA.8050401@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3137a504-c134-4ca3-9428-8fc618af73ec X-Archives-Hash: 2f3ac58b69ff30b6b68c98f85db007f9 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: > >> I don't recall having kde/gtk crap turned on by default when I first >> showed up. Maybe I'm missing something; regardless, the defaults >> (which should be minimal from my standpoint) are anything but. > > > I think you recall wrong, then. The default USE flags have been set so > that the majority of systems will work properly without modifications, > not so that they're the minimal set. I agree with that, since it's easy to configure them, but the problem is that for most users, there is no default use flag at all. I'd say most of our users run either gtk (and gnome) or qt (and kde), but not both. Either you like gnome or kde ;) So we end up having qt, gtk, gtk2, gnome, kde and arts in the default use flags, but nearly nobody wants to use that, so I think it's better to have minimal use flags than pseudo-standard ones. Regards, -- Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Operational Co-Lead blubb@gentoo.org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list