[gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Corey Shields]

Archive links for the complete morning and afternoon sessions are at 
http://devconference.gentoo.org

With IU's media servers we can make links that start at the times of each 
individual presentation, but I'll probably get to those later as they need to 
be timed and I lack the motivation right now.

Thanks to the speakers of the conference, to Global Netoptex for hosting the 
conference, and to Indiana University for providing the streaming servers and 
bandwidth.

-Corey

PS - For those who are emailing me about using the Real Media codec.  Yes, I 
realize it is a "proprietary" format, but it is one that we as a distribution 
support, so if you wish to protest the webcast it is your loss.  When I sent 
a call for help with this conference, IU offered their services.  Nobody else 
did, and despite that nobody else could handle the capacity that they could.  
If it is offensive to people to do it in real, we will skip the webcasting 
next time.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Corey Shields wrote:
| Archive links for the complete morning and afternoon sessions are at
| http://devconference.gentoo.org

Thanks Corey! I was unable to sit around all day Friday watching them,
so this will be really helpful.

Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Michiel de Bruijne]

On Monday 15 August 2005 05:25, Corey Shields wrote:
> Archive links for the complete morning and afternoon sessions are at
> http://devconference.gentoo.org

> -Corey

Hi Corey (and IU),

Thanks a lot! Is it possible to download the media-files instead of streaming? 
This makes it a lot easier to skip/replay some parts of the session.

Regards,
Michiel.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Wernfried Haas]

Corey Shields wrote:
 > PS - For those who are emailing me about using the Real Media codec.

Just for the record, i didn't, but the topic raises some questions for 
me. Really really not intended as a flamebait to raise a debate on 
principles. Just asking.

 > Yes, I realize it is a "proprietary" format, but it is one that we as 
 > a distribution support, so if you wish to protest the webcast it is
 > your loss.

Support in the terms of decoding but also encoding? I could only find 
decoders - and only for x86 and amd64 (media-video/realplayer).

 > When I sent a call for help with this conference, IU offered their
 > services.  Nobody else did, and despite that nobody else could handle
 > the capacity that they could.  If it is offensive to people to do it
 > in real, we will skip the webcasting next time.

That's very nice from IU for sure and especially if there are not many 
(read: one) options to choose from the outcome is pretty obvious.
However, i'm not sure what our Social Contract says about it. It seems 
to deal with the operating system itself, but there seem to be no 
implications about anything else. So in theory we could host the whole 
www.gentoo.org stuff on IIS servers?

cheers,
     Wernfried

PS: I think my first reply was eaten due to some address mismatch, if 
you get it later, please disregard & sorry.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Michael Cummings]

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:02:00 +0200
Michiel de Bruijne <m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> wrote:

> On Monday 15 August 2005 05:25, Corey Shields wrote:
> > http://devconference.gentoo.org

> Thanks a lot! Is it possible to download the media-files instead of
streaming? 
> This makes it a lot easier to skip/replay some parts of the session.

And if so, maybe on a regular port? (firewalls out of our control and
all that). Thanks!

-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Fernando J. Pereda]

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 11:16:10AM +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> Corey Shields wrote:
> [...snip...]

If it is that important to you then please organize it the next time or
re-code all those audio files. But don't bitch about it if you haven't
helped.

TIA.

Cheer,s
Ferdy

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Wernfried Haas]

Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> If it is that important to you then please organize it the next time or
> re-code all those audio files.

Please re-read my previous mail:
I wrote:
 > Just for the record, i didn't, but the topic raises some questions 
for > me. Really really not intended as a flamebait to raise a debate on
 > principles. Just asking.
So, no, the devconference isn't _that_ important to me, but if there 
should really be much interest to recode the files i can help if someone 
asks me to. Anyway, if you re-read my mail you may notice it raises some 
general questions.

 > But don't bitch about it if you haven't helped.
As a matter of fact i wasn't bitching, but i really think the questions 
i asked were valid and of interest. What's with that 
if-you-didn't-help-and-just-stop-bitching-TIA-attitude anyway? Are we 
using it these days to stop every discussion we don't like as soon it 
comes from someone who hasn't helped in that very project?

cheers,
	Wernfried


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Sven Vermeulen]

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On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 11:16:10AM +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> That's very nice from IU for sure and especially if there are not many 
> (read: one) options to choose from the outcome is pretty obvious.
> However, i'm not sure what our Social Contract says about it. It seems 
> to deal with the operating system itself, but there seem to be no 
> implications about anything else. So in theory we could host the whole 
> www.gentoo.org stuff on IIS servers?

Sure. The contract tells our users that we will never depend on non-free
stuff, so the continuance of the distribution is guaranteed.

But Gentoo can surely use propriatary products. Whether or not we want to is
a different question. 

Wkr,
      Sven Vermeulen

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Wernfried Haas]

Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> Sure. The contract tells our users that we will never depend on non-free
> stuff, so the continuance of the distribution is guaranteed.
> 
> But Gentoo can surely use propriatary products. Whether or not we want to is
> a different question. 
Thanks for clearing that up!

cheers,
	Wernfried

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 11:16 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> However, i'm not sure what our Social Contract says about it. It seems 
> to deal with the operating system itself, but there seem to be no 
> implications about anything else. So in theory we could host the whole 
> www.gentoo.org stuff on IIS servers?

The Social Contract does not apply to infrastructure, as I recall.
Also, this wasn't Gentoo's webcast, but instead IU's webcast of a Gentoo
event.  See the minor difference that makes it OK?

That being said, thanks to IU for doing the webcast... now everybody
gets to see what we look like... *grin*

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Nathan L. Adams]

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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> That being said, thanks to IU for doing the webcast... now everybody
> gets to see what we look like... *grin*

If you're like me, you have a perfect face... for email. :P

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Devconference archives

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 22:43 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
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> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > That being said, thanks to IU for doing the webcast... now everybody
> > gets to see what we look like... *grin*
> 
> If you're like me, you have a perfect face... for email. :P

Are you kidding?  I'm so pretty that now I'm worried about stalkers.
*grin*

Anyway, to get back on-topic...

Corey, any idea when we'll have the individual talks linked from the
page?

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