From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DrKSC-0008WP-Io for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:53:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j69IqYYm015873; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:52:34 GMT Received: from mail.eigenor.com (www.eigenor.com [194.252.160.195]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j69Iotx5001473 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:50:55 GMT Received: from [172.17.16.100] (fork.eigenor.com [194.252.160.194]) by mail.eigenor.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D12D24002 for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:50:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <42D01C83.5040007@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:50:43 +0300 From: Philippe Trottier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050602) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on References: <20050706224651.GA19853@kroah.com> <200507081949.34728.m.debruijne@hccnet.nl> <20050708222544.GB22141@kroah.com> <1120865758.6495.4.camel@lycan.lan> <42D0189F.1030802@asmallpond.org> In-Reply-To: <42D0189F.1030802@asmallpond.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f7835362-29f8-44af-be4b-70305cb9905e X-Archives-Hash: 1bfbf1c3e529d5ddc3a7a3f7063bf088 Richard Fish wrote: >>>>I.o.w. is it still necessary to have RC_DEVICE_TARBALL="yes" as a >>>>default or can we move to a pure udev system and change the default to >>>>"no". >>>> >>>I've been running my boxes successfully with "no" since the option >>>showed up just fine :) >> >>I think people is under a misconception about this option and ... you >>really only need to enable this for a driver that is not sysfs aware >>(nvidia comes to mind - any others?), or if you have some custom nodes >>in /dev that you cannot do via udev ... And I am pretty sure (correct >>me if I am wrong) that all (or most?) in-kernel drivers are sysfs aware, >>and only a handful outside are not. >> > Well, I do have a small issue with the software RAID (md) driver, in > that when autodetection is not performed by the driver (due to either > being a module or booting the system through an initramfs), no sysfs > entries or device nodes are created. > > Normally my RAID system is brought up inside my initramfs with static > nodes, so this really only affects my recovery CD, where I need to run: > > for d in 0 1 2 3; do > /sbin/mdadm --assemble --config=partitions --auto=md > --super-minor=$d /dev/md$d >/dev/null 2>&1 > done > > Maybe something similar will be required in /sbin/rc, like you currently > do for LVM and the device mapper? It isn't a critical problem > though...I am pretty sure there are only a few Gentoo users who will > ever see this...maybe as few as 1!!! > This might explain why this problem wasn't seen for the missing md devices in /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2... I obviously don't use genkernel, nor initrd... I now add myself these devices by hand in the tar ball. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list