From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5A8Rpm3017446 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:27:51 GMT Received: from user.scort.com ([213.41.103.70] helo=[10.1.10.18]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1Dgesi-000384-4m for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:28:48 +0000 Message-ID: <42A94F3E.9090207@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:28:46 +0200 From: Thierry Carrez Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050325) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo? References: <1118356324.6127.141.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> In-Reply-To: <1118356324.6127.141.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6d4bd93c-bc16-432a-bef0-2da4eec5787f X-Archives-Hash: 4befe24aa26371cfe9ac47544c54350d Stuart Herbert wrote: >>There have been some really interesting points brought up recently >>about "where is Gentoo going?" > > It feels like this topic comes up every year :) I'd say it should come up a little more often :) >>I have been wondering that myself. >>Some people seem to think that Gentoo has the potential to be an >>enterprise player. > > Maybe, maybe not ... but I don't see why we couldn't do a little bit > more to make it easier for others to use us as a base. > > Isn't that what *we're* about - being a metadistribution? If we follow the "metadistribution" trail we should have a set of high-level tools that really help people manage their own binary packages building and deployment. We (all?) know that the underlying technology is already in Gentoo, but there are still no authoritative tool(s) to : 1- help rolling your own distribution based on Gentoo - tool to maintain frozen Portage trees - tool to roll out a software update pack including config files - ... 2- help centralizing packages deployment on several workstations - help test software update packs on gold systems - push packages to multiple systems - do accountability on what's installed on systems - ... I'm not talking about releasing an "Enterprise-oriented" flavor of Gentoo, I'm just talking about enabling people to do so and the minimal deployment tools needed in a 5+ machine network. The size of the Portage tree gives us a definitive advantage : you can have 100% Portage-packages systems, so what's-in-this-box accountability is not the nightmare it can be with other systems that heavily rely on third-party RPMs. We should exploit that advantage. -- Thierry Carrez (Koon) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list