From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j55KvESn032480 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:57:15 GMT Received: from [69.180.10.236] (c-69-180-10-236.hsd1.ga.comcast.net[69.180.10.236]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005060520572401100mi4s8e>; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:57:24 +0000 Message-ID: <42A3688A.4020608@ieee.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 17:03:06 -0400 From: "Nathan L. Adams" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050514) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category References: <200506051622.24240@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <1117985871.30949.13.camel@localhost> <42A32997.3010502@sdf-eu.org> <1117989777.13069.4.camel@rivendell> <42A3358B.20802@ieee.org> <1117995239.17948.21.camel@localhost> <42A3672F.1090304@ieee.org> In-Reply-To: <42A3672F.1090304@ieee.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ec3a2ed0-706b-4220-8c0b-723a03916302 X-Archives-Hash: 2d053ce3c5c05bbf62c2780e5483e373 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nathan L. Adams wrote: > Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically > organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing stuff. Do you > group by what the package is used for (email vs. game vs. web browser) > or by what it is built from (PERL stuff, Gnome apps, KDE apps). It > appears that currently its a mix. Is that documented anywhere? > > I personally think the organization should be from an end-user > perspective as much as possible. Imagine for a moment that you are a > Genewbie (new Gentoo user). You have a new minimal installation and you > want to add some applications. How do you know what your choices are for > an email client, for instance? You could find most things here: > > http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=mail-client > > But that wouldn't let you know about kmail, a fairly important option. > > If you were to do a search, you wouldn't get much either: > > # emerge -s email > Searching... > [ Results for search key : email ] > [ Applications found : 5 ] > > * dev-perl/Email-Find > * dev-perl/Email-Valid > * net-mail/archivemail > * net-mail/email > * net-mail/sendEmail > > So while the metadata.xml files do exist, I don't see how they are > _currently_ very useful to the end-users. Again, I think better > organization and improved tools are both worth while. > > Nathan > Oooops. I just realized that I did a --search instead of a --searchdesc. But I doubt most users even realize that --searchdesc even exists, so my argument there still applies. ;) Nathan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCo2iK2QTTR4CNEQARAjgtAJ0TysMfDTptn9U1v7NlquVpONevVQCZAbA6 TYcZJnMAAhsgcNwpKw6fiO4= =H/f5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list