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From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@cesmail.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: John Mylchreest <johnm@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 20:21:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42799125.2000608@cesmail.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050505022948.4CC05F5B41@mail.deploylinux.net>

There are also some serious performance issues with I/O. Xen is a much
better way to go in the long run. See

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70161

for the team that's working to bring Xen to life in Gentoo, and the Xen
home page at

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/performance.html



Matthew Marlowe wrote:

>ESX is a completely different beast than workstation, or GSX for that matter.
>
>Good:
>-  Very, very stable
>-  The only real vmware software designed for server apps
>-  Performance VM QoS for disk, cpu, network, etc
>-  Easily run 30-40 VM's on a strong box w/ good mem
>-  Deals with lots of NIC's assigned to different vm's
>-  Per VM User Access Policies
>-  Very nice realtime performance reporting
>  
>Bad:
>- Dont use for apps that really need performance of
>dedicated boxes
>- Not cheap, especially if get all the management add ons.
>- Setting up some of the networking is more complicated than
>it needs to be.
>- Not very good w/ linux 2.6 kernel support yet (read, dont do it)
>-  I don't find the rollback, and cloning functionality as useful
>as others.  In fact, I've seen some vm's be corrupted if you
>select the "append" mode for disk writes, which creates
>a redo log that can get lost if the server hardware crashes.
>
>Matt
>
>--- Original Message---
> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
> From: John Mylchreest <johnm@gentoo.org>
> Sent:  5/04/2005  2:16PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX
>
>  
>
>>>Hi there, thanks for getting back to me.
>>>
>>>basically, What I was wanting to know is actual hands-on experience.
>>>Whats it like? Pros? Cons? What to watch out for? what its exceptionally
>>>good at? whats it exceptionally bad at? bugs? all the normal kind of
>>>questions really. How is it so different to vmware workstation? what big
>>>management (of guest OS and resource allocation) features are there?
>>>
>>>Also, if you can, how you use it. what it is you do with it? Application
>>>clustering? etc etc.
>>>
>>>All the stuff which doesnt come out of press releases, reviews and
>>>promos :)
>>>
>>>Cheers, in anticipation :)
>>>Regards,
>>>John
>>>
>>>P.S. DK, what happened last fall is water under the bridge.
>>>Misconceptions all around, and glad to see your still here.
>>>
>>>On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 15:12 -0400, Omkhar Arasaratnam wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>John Mylchreest wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>Apologies for posting my question to such lists, but it hits the exact
>>>>>audience I'm after a response from :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone at work run Vmware ESX Server? If so, could they please get
>>>>>in touch with me so that I might talk about experiences?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>John,
>>>>
>>>>I've worked with it before and have a number of colleagues in the field
>>>>- what's up?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>Omkhar Arasaratnam - Gentoo PPC64 Developer
>>>>omkhar@gentoo.org - http://dev.gentoo.org/~omkhar
>>>>Gentoo Linux / PPC64 Linux: http://ppc64.gentoo.org
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Role:            Gentoo Linux Kernel Lead
>>>Gentoo Linux:    http://www.gentoo.org
>>>Public Key:      gpg --recv-keys 9C745515
>>>Key fingerprint: A0AF F3C8 D699 A05A EC5C  24F7 95AA 241D 9C74 5515
>>>Web:
>>>http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9C745515
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>  
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-05  3:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-05  2:30 Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX Matthew Marlowe
2005-05-05  3:21 ` M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [this message]
2005-05-05  3:25   ` Donnie Berkholz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-04 18:24 John Mylchreest
2005-05-04 19:12 ` Omkhar Arasaratnam
2005-05-04 21:16   ` John Mylchreest
2005-05-04 21:37     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-05-04 21:42       ` John Mylchreest
2005-05-04 19:46 ` DK Smith

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