From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3KCFB0f002197 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:15:11 GMT Received: from [12.10.10.252] (helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DOE6W-0005Ff-I0 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:14:52 +0000 Message-ID: <426647BE.8030000@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:14:54 -0500 From: Lance Albertson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask References: <200504160656.43452@zippy.emcb.local> <200504192045.51436@zippy.emcb.local> <200504192251.24493.pauldv@gentoo.org> <200504200936.40347.trapni@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200504200936.40347.trapni@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7FA83FF64D07072A488D57DE" X-Archives-Salt: 48c1f967-8820-4ccd-b896-32a6e2ad820c X-Archives-Hash: 150da71878929bc9e54ddb27604def77 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7FA83FF64D07072A488D57DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Parpart wrote: > And yeah, I disagree to a move-back, too!! I'm most likely not to support this > in any kind, instead, I'd be willing in pushing p.mask'ed apache httpd 2.1 > into the tree, so, that I don't have to live with the old shitty behavior > again. > > Seriousely, why did we put all our power into those improvements when we're > now about to revert mostly everything? Because they seriously hork people's installations in some cases and cause lots of frustration. The improvements seem great, but they need to *work* out of the box for most situations which this doesn't appear to be doing. Testing is supposed to be for things that work and just need tweaking, not something that works for most cases and breaks other people's systems. For one, make your eclass backwards compatible so that mod plugins are easier to maintain. You're not reverting if you're saving a lot of people some pain. Why do you have to push all these improvements on the current stable line of apache (2.0.x) ? Why can't these changes just be used in the upcoming alpha/beta releases and totally be implemented by the time they move to the next stable release. Asking people to suddenly change midway through is a major pain. If they knew that these kinds of changes were going to happen in >2.0.x, then it would be easier for them to manage. Cheers, -- Lance Albertson Gentoo Infrastructure | Operational Manager --- Public GPG key: Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net --------------enig7FA83FF64D07072A488D57DE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCZkfBQW+hXSf0t0IRAq+BAJ4sHFmQH7rIlRv/Zs25yPAdjqNXzwCgz5mp tQ6E6Z6f04kZHTOXHG0InSw= =/Q2r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7FA83FF64D07072A488D57DE-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list