Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE split ebuilds

[Tom Wesley <tom@tomaw.org>]

Dan Armak wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:25, Tom Wesley wrote:
> 
>>Hey
>>
>>I've seen several queries regarding KDE's new split ebuilds and the
>>version numbers used for specific packages.  It seems that all of the
>>KDE 3.4 packages have been versioned as 3.4.
>>
>>Should kmail, kopete etc not be using their own version numbers with the
>>meta-packages being versioned based on the kde release number?  
>>IMO this would make more sense, especially when reading the kopete website, 
>>finding the latest version is 0.9.2 and then noticing that portage only 
>>has 3.4.
> 
> In my experience most KDE users have no idea offhand what the individual app 
> versions are and which versions belong to which kde.org release. They'd be 
> confused.
> 
> If a lot of users told me I'm wrong, I guess I'd be willing to concede this 
> point...
> 
> BTW, what do other distros use?

The only other distro I have recollection of is Debian and they have the 
packages at the version number of the software.  That is, they have a 
kmail-1.5 being part of kde-3.3.x [1]

> 
> Another problem is that there are a few KDE devs who are the same: they don't 
> bother to put real version numbers on their apps (and especially libs), and 
> they stay stuck at 0.0.1, or don't always receive a version number upgrade 
> when they change. I can't find an example offhand now, but I remember seeing 
> such before...

Probably.  Dated version numbers could perhaps help?  Stuff in 
kdenonbeta probably suffers from never being released or versioned.

> 
> And a third problem: it'd make it much easier for us to make a versioning/dep 
> mistake (think about updating 300 differently-schemed version numbers) 
> without noticing.
> 

I can't disagree that p'masking a bucket-load of packages, all at 
different versions will be a pain.  Also, upgrading etc may require a 
small army of gnome's (pun intended) to complete the task in a timely 
manner.

Do any kde applications release outside of kde's main releases?  (I have 
a vague recollection of kopete doing this, but no others)

   1: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/kmail
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