[gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Daniel Drake]

Hi,

Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and publically 
accessible:

http://planet.gentoo.org

If you aren't in on the fun but would like to be involved, let me know. If you 
already have a weblog, thats great, if not, we can give you one at 
http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/YOURNAME :)

This will be properly announced tomorrow.
Any other problems or issues please contact me.

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[LostSon]

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On Thursday 10 March 2005 09:33 am, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and publically
> accessible:
>
> http://planet.gentoo.org
>
> If you aren't in on the fun but would like to be involved, let me know. If
> you already have a weblog, thats great, if not, we can give you one at
> http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/YOURNAME :)
>
> This will be properly announced tomorrow.
> Any other problems or issues please contact me.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
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   Hey 
  Is this just for devs and such?? Do you have to be someone special to have a 
blog ?? 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 10:26 -0600, LostSon wrote:
>    Hey 
>   Is this just for devs and such?? Do you have to be someone special to have a 
> blog ?? 

You have to be a developer to be on PlanetGentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Daniel Drake]

LostSon wrote:
>    Hey 
>   Is this just for devs and such?? Do you have to be someone special to have a 
> blog ?? 

This is for developers only. Should have mentioned that in the original email.

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Thomas de Grenier de Latour]

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:33:52 +0000
Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org> wrote:

> http://planet.gentoo.org

Nice, many worth readings :)

Btw, i've not found the RSS url (/rss20.xml) on the page, maybe
you could had it somewhere in the left column?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Peter Johanson]

On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 05:43:39PM +0100, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote:
> 
> Btw, i've not found the RSS url (/rss20.xml) on the page, maybe
> you could had it somewhere in the left column?

I already talked to Daniel about this, and he said he would add it.
Hopefully it'll be up soon.

-pete


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Daniel Drake wrote:
> Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and
> publically accessible:

How often does it update? Five minutes seems to be a good time for this.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Lance Albertson]

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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Daniel Drake wrote:
> 
>>>Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and
>>>publically accessible:
> 
> 
> How often does it update? Five minutes seems to be a good time for this.

Hourly. Why would you need to update it every five minutes? I could understand
30 minutes, but 5?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Lance Albertson wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> 
>>Daniel Drake wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and
>>>>publically accessible:
>>
>>
>>How often does it update? Five minutes seems to be a good time for this.
> 
> 
> Hourly. Why would you need to update it every five minutes? I could understand
> 30 minutes, but 5?

So I can see my blog entries show up on it without waiting around for
half of forever. More than 15 minutes is very annoying.

What's the rationale for having it happen less often? Maybe it's a major
drain on resources, but from my ignorant mind, it seems unlikely.

Has anyone checked with some other planet maintainers (e.g.,
planet.freedesktop.org, planet.gnome.org) to see how often they do it?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote:

> So I can see my blog entries show up on it without waiting around for
> half of forever. More than 15 minutes is very annoying.

Do you have ADD or something?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Donnie Berkholz]

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A. Khattri wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> 
> 
>>So I can see my blog entries show up on it without waiting around for
>>half of forever. More than 15 minutes is very annoying.
> 
> 
> Do you have ADD or something?

No, but I don't have infinite time to dick around in front of the computer.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Michael Cummings]

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(dropping all the accusation bits) But Spyderous, if its your post,
don't you already know what it's going to say before planet updates? :)

<disclaimer>
mcummings is known to drop random lines in and to date has failed to
attempt to get anyone's ire or goat (except kurt's, but we'll leave her
out of this)
</disclaimer>


On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 21:58 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> No, but I don't have infinite time to dick around in front of the computer.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Michael Cummings]

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(dropping all the accusation bits) But Spyderous, if its your post,
don't you already know what it's going to say before planet updates? :)

<disclaimer>
mcummings is known to drop random lines in and to date has failed to
attempt to get anyone's ire or goat (except kurt's, but we'll leave her
out of this)
</disclaimer>


On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 21:58 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> No, but I don't have infinite time to dick around in front of the computer.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Michael Cummings wrote:
> (dropping all the accusation bits) But Spyderous, if its your post,
> don't you already know what it's going to say before planet updates? :)

I sure do. I'm mildly anal-retentive, however, so I like seeing that
things show up properly everywhere. It's kinda like committing something
to CVS and walking away before it hits rsync.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Mike Frysinger]

On Friday 11 March 2005 02:55 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Michael Cummings wrote:
> > (dropping all the accusation bits) But Spyderous, if its your post,
> > don't you already know what it's going to say before planet updates? :)
>
> I sure do. I'm mildly anal-retentive, however, so I like seeing that
> things show up properly everywhere. It's kinda like committing something
> to CVS and walking away before it hits rsync.

or committing something to cvs and wishing there was a link you could pull up 
in viewcvs to give to users when closing bugs rather than waiting around for 
30+ minutes for the changes to appear in viewcvs
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Aron Griffis]

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Vapier wrote:	[Fri Mar 11 2005, 03:38:35PM EST]
> or committing something to cvs and wishing there was a link you could pull up 
> in viewcvs to give to users when closing bugs rather than waiting around for 
> 30+ minutes for the changes to appear in viewcvs

$ vc keychain*
http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/net-misc/keychain/keychain-2.5.1.ebuild?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/net-misc/keychain/keychain-2.5.1.ebuild?r1=1.2&r2=1.3
http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/net-misc/keychain/keychain-2.5.3.1.ebuild?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

# vc: generate viewcvs urls from the current directory
vc() {
  declare f rev cwd orevn
  declare -a orev
  [[ -n $* ]] || set -- *

  cwd=${PWD#*/portage}
  cwd=${cwd#*/gentoo-x86}
  cwd=${cwd#/}

  for f in "$@"; do
    [[ -f "$f" ]] || continue
    rev=$(egrep -m1 -o '\$(Header|Id):[^$]*\$' "$f")
    [[ -n $rev ]] && rev=$(echo "$rev" | cut -d' ' -f3)
    [[ -n $rev ]] || rev=$(cvs log "$f" 2>/dev/null | awk '/^head:/{print $2}')
    [[ -n $rev ]] || continue   # oh well

    printf "%s/%s/%s?rev=%s&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup\n" \
      "http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi" "$cwd" "$f" "$rev"

    if [[ $rev != *.1 ]]; then
      orev=( $(sed 's/\(.*\.\)\(.*\)/\1 \2/g' <<<"$rev") )
      (( orev[1]-- ))
      printf "%s/%s/%s?r1=%s&r2=%s\n" "http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi" \
        "$cwd" "$f" "${orev[0]}${orev[1]}" "$rev"
    fi
  done
}

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Hasan Khalil]

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On Mar 11, 2005, at 13:55, Donnie Berkholz wrote:

> It's kinda like committing something
> to CVS and walking away before it hits rsync.

Since when was that a Bad Thing(tm)? Faith in technology, I say. And if 
the technology breaks, blame infra. :-P

I can understand about the CVS/rsync thing - it can be an 'important' 
commit, but why in the heck would your blog have 'important' 
information on it? If it does, shouldn't it be mirrored on -dev or the 
pertinent list? Is our Planet going to become the primary means of 
communication between developers? I sure hope not.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Hasan Khalil]

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On Mar 10, 2005, at 21:28, Donnie Berkholz wrote:

> Lance Albertson wrote:
>> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>> Daniel Drake wrote:
>>>>> Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and
>>>>> publically accessible:
>>> How often does it update? Five minutes seems to be a good time for 
>>> this.
>> Hourly. Why would you need to update it every five minutes? I could 
>> understand
>> 30 minutes, but 5?
> So I can see my blog entries show up on it without waiting around for
> half of forever. More than 15 minutes is very annoying.
>
> What's the rationale for having it happen less often? Maybe it's a 
> major
> drain on resources, but from my ignorant mind, it seems unlikely.

5 is ridiculous. I think 15 is a bit far-fetched too. You can suffer 
the wait. Anything less than 30 is most likely a waste of traffic.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Daniel Drake]

Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> So I can see my blog entries show up on it without waiting around for
> half of forever. More than 15 minutes is very annoying.
> 
> What's the rationale for having it happen less often? Maybe it's a major
> drain on resources, but from my ignorant mind, it seems unlikely.
> 
> Has anyone checked with some other planet maintainers (e.g.,
> planet.freedesktop.org, planet.gnome.org) to see how often they do it?

It is currently set to update every hour (xx:02). I personally think this is a 
good enough delay, to avoid too much pointless traffic etc.

On the other hand, I was also wondering how regularly other planets update. If 
anybody knows anyone in the know, please get me in contact.

How often is Planet Gentoo Experimental updating?

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:27:31AM +0000, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> >So I can see my blog entries show up on it without waiting around for
> >half of forever. More than 15 minutes is very annoying.
> >
> >What's the rationale for having it happen less often? Maybe it's a major
> >drain on resources, but from my ignorant mind, it seems unlikely.
> >
> >Has anyone checked with some other planet maintainers (e.g.,
> >planet.freedesktop.org, planet.gnome.org) to see how often they do it?
> It is currently set to update every hour (xx:02). I personally think this 
> is a good enough delay, to avoid too much pointless traffic etc.
> 
> On the other hand, I was also wondering how regularly other planets update. 
> If anybody knows anyone in the know, please get me in contact.
> 
> How often is Planet Gentoo Experimental updating?
From my Apache logs, it seems to be once an hour, around xx:31.

I agree that once an hour is a very reasonable time, as Planet/0.2
fetches the page every time according to my logs, but I'm not certain if
this is because of the way I build my RSS feed.

I don't know if Planet includes 'If-Modified-Since' in it's requests.
If it does, then I think halving the time may be appropriate, as nearly
all requests will return only an HTTP header as the page has not
changed. The traffic and load in this case should be very small.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Daniel Drake]

Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> I don't know if Planet includes 'If-Modified-Since' in it's requests.
> If it does, then I think halving the time may be appropriate, as nearly
> all requests will return only an HTTP header as the page has not
> changed. The traffic and load in this case should be very small.
> 

A quick look at the planet source code suggests that it does use those headers.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Rob Cakebread]

Daniel Drake wrote:

> On the other hand, I was also wondering how regularly other planets 
> update. If anybody knows anyone in the know, please get me in contact.
> 

Planet kde updates every 10 minutes. Taking a look at some other sites
it looks like 15 minutes is average wih 30 minutes being the longest 
interval I've found.

Whatever interval you choose, maybe making it known on the front page 
would be a good idea, like kde's warning:

"We update every ten minutes, so having your feed reader check more 
frequently than that will just waste bandwidth.
Last updated: March 11, 2005 05:03 PM"


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:48:49 -0800 Donnie Berkholz
<spyderous@gentoo.org> wrote:
| Daniel Drake wrote:
| > Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and
| > publically accessible:
| 
| How often does it update? Five minutes seems to be a good time for
| this.

Would you like to get the site IP banned for abuse? RSS fetches at that
interval will get you blacklisted from some places.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[marduk]

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On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 15:33 +0000, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and publically 
> accessible:
> 
> http://planet.gentoo.org
> 

How do I get my blog added to the planet?

tia,
-m

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Planet Gentoo released

[Wolfram Schlich]

* Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org> [2005-03-10 16:36]:
> Hi,
> 
> Just a quick note to say that Planet Gentoo is now released and publically 
> accessible:
> 
> http://planet.gentoo.org

Great work!

I would *love* the website to be using a serif font for the blog
messages, as it noticeably eases reading of many lines of text.
Can we change this to be the default? If not, can we have it
as an option? Like http://planet.gentoo.org/?serif or something.

TIA.
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