From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j217xrTP014652 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:59:53 GMT Received: from 202-47-55-78.adsl.gil.com.au ([202.47.55.78] helo=longlandclan.hopto.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1D62IF-0006Gi-1s for gentoo-dev@robin.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 07:59:49 +0000 Received: (qmail 14397 invoked by uid 210); 1 Mar 2005 17:59:40 +1000 Received: from 10.0.0.251 by www (envelope-from , uid 201) with qmail-scanner-1.25st (spamassassin: 3.0.2. perlscan: 1.25st. Clear:RC:1(10.0.0.251):. Processed in 0.099462 secs); 01 Mar 2005 07:59:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.251?) (10.0.0.251) by 192.168.5.1 with SMTP; 1 Mar 2005 17:59:39 +1000 Message-ID: <422420E5.5070504@longlandclan.hopto.org> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:59:33 +1000 From: Stuart Longland User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@robin.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Small irritation: Can people please stop sending their posts in duplicate... References: <42231CC4.5010000@longlandclan.hopto.org> <422412C0.8050604@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <422412C0.8050604@cox.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7CC3EEA1569988377830B9A8" X-Archives-Salt: 2640e825-3b34-4068-810c-28a854df514d X-Archives-Hash: 6c43fb7b974cd800a5136bf5919fb0aa This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7CC3EEA1569988377830B9A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit D. Wokan wrote: > Stuart Longland wrote: > >> Hi All, >> Sorry for the noise... but a number of people have started sending to >> ${LIST}@gentoo.org, CCing to ${LIST}@lists.gentoo.org -- resulting in >> duplicate emails being sent to this end. >> >> If possible, can people kindly pick one, or the other -- and not >> both? >> > > The problem is in the lack of standardization between mailing lists. > I've gotten used to just hitting reply-all instead of just reply because > a number of lists I'm on don't set the reply-to header like the Gentoo > lists do. The first time I saw the too addresses in my recipients, I > thought maybe one was some kind of backup list system, but then I saw my > reply double-posted. Agreed. Most do set the List-ID header -- looking at your email headers here -- I see the following... > List-Post: > List-Help: > List-Unsubscribe: > List-Subscribe: > List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail ...and some email clients (KMail comes to mind) are even able to directly use this information. Some for instance provide Unsubscribe and Reply-To-Post buttons. Unfortunately Thunderbird (the mail client I use most of the time) doesn't have these features. (I'm tempted to do some maildrop/xfilter/perl magic to emulate these features though) > I'll try to keep an eye on what's going on in each list that I reply to, > but I don't think this is really going to be solved until someone > hammers an RFC on it down the Internet's throat. (But even that may not > be enough. After all, Outlook Express never did use dash, dash, space > to start a signature.) Knowing Microsoft... they'll probably implement the bits they like... tack on their own extensions and completely ignore the rest of it. (Embrace, Extend & Break) Which is unfortunate for its users. However, so long as we don't completely break those clients (i.e. it's still usable) then all should be fine. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Stuart Longland -oOo- http://stuartl.longlandclan.hopto.org | | Atomic Linux Project -oOo- http://atomicl.berlios.de | | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | I haven't lost my mind - it's backed up on a tape somewhere | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------enig7CC3EEA1569988377830B9A8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCJCDouarJ1mMmSrkRAgIqAJ9q/2lXapXbOQctWJ7IByVPT0CtjACeORTf eDuk8BkOXJ6amGEDy7z+VyQ= =z8L/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7CC3EEA1569988377830B9A8-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list