Re: [gentoo-dev] Small irritation: Can people please stop sending their posts in duplicate...

[Stuart Longland <stuartl@longlandclan.hopto.org>]

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D. Wokan wrote:
> Stuart Longland wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>     Sorry for the noise... but a number of people have started sending to
>> ${LIST}@gentoo.org, CCing to ${LIST}@lists.gentoo.org -- resulting in
>> duplicate emails being sent to this end.
>>
>>     If possible, can people kindly pick one, or the other -- and not
>> both?
>>
>
> The problem is in the lack of standardization between mailing lists.
> I've gotten used to just hitting reply-all instead of just reply because
> a number of lists I'm on don't set the reply-to header like the Gentoo
> lists do.  The first time I saw the too addresses in my recipients, I
> thought maybe one was some kind of backup list system, but then I saw my
> reply double-posted.

Agreed.  Most do set the List-ID header -- looking at your email headers
here -- I see the following...

> List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org>
> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org>
> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org>
> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org>

...and some email clients (KMail comes to mind) are even able to
directly use this information.  Some for instance provide Unsubscribe
and Reply-To-Post buttons.  Unfortunately Thunderbird (the mail client I
use most of the time) doesn't have these features.

(I'm tempted to do some maildrop/xfilter/perl magic to emulate these
features though)

> I'll try to keep an eye on what's going on in each list that I reply to,
> but I don't think this is really going to be solved until someone
> hammers an RFC on it down the Internet's throat.  (But even that may not
> be enough.  After all, Outlook Express never did use dash, dash, space
> to start a signature.)

Knowing Microsoft... they'll probably implement the bits they like...
tack on their own extensions and completely ignore the rest of it.
(Embrace, Extend & Break)  Which is unfortunate for its users.

However, so long as we don't completely break those clients (i.e. it's
still usable) then all should be fine.

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