From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2648 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2004 18:07:45 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Jul 2004 18:07:45 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bmz1i-0000hY-Pn for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 18:07:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 12012 invoked by uid 89); 20 Jul 2004 18:07:26 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 11868 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2004 18:07:26 +0000 X-AntiVirus: Clean Message-ID: <40FD5F55.9010408@gossamer-threads.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:07:17 -0700 From: Jason Rhinelander User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <40FB9259.4020503@gentoo.org> <20040719155832.5fadba22.spider@gentoo.org> <40FBE87E.2090505@gentoo.org> <20040719192024.12ae4a5e@snowdrop.home> <20040720002322.GL18023@mail.lieber.org> In-Reply-To: <20040720002322.GL18023@mail.lieber.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The Gentoo Developer Handbook - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? X-Archives-Salt: 7ccc2b2d-9d21-49a9-9f00-2a5a8bd8fce5 X-Archives-Hash: ae4b06292dcff216da8306acbe1c7b1f Kurt Lieber wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 07:20:24PM +0100 or thereabouts, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>* The ability to impose arbitrary restrictions upon what developers are >>and are not allowed to say on IRC and the mailing lists. > > I have seen this and I strongly disagreed with it then and now. I don't > believe it is *ever* appropriate for devrel to censor devs, whether it be > temporarily or permanently. As long as it is done professionally and > courteously, devs should be able to express themselves freely imo. That appears to be what the recently posted documents laid out. It seems to me from those documents that the only time censorship would come into play would be when devs are _not_ expressing themselves professionally and courteously. I didn't see anything that talked about or indicated "arbitrary restrictions" - the restrictions seemed clearly laid out for cases where devs are acting inappropriately. > > --kurt -- Jason Rhinelander -- Gossamer Threads, Inc. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list