From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE8FA13832E for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2E4021C0A9; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3A9FE0B4F for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24D2029C for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 07 Aug 2016 10:46:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=pxE/Mnt/bxXBp4h glF/qa9OGHPI=; b=R66G1JlVe0y3siBf7dMHldpLd4z9qhpUaOpLrqvCXZacTAj LFSGjG+5xQTCjJvkJjf8RghVME6VKsSTLpetPEWxNBnWQnxoqyiOeQ2mUzqMF9lI KyC0CI6mm3MBaBugOEUzXXZbbfDYWsP6lEfiJ5Gs8w0pSkGg+J2v2vuuq3Dc= X-Sasl-enc: oKvBmwZvwo88XuyDD5wtFj1ZjGH3LYAoob3Z3A8c7iNG 1470581166 Received: from [172.20.4.78] (rrcs-184-75-114-3.nyc.biz.rr.com [184.75.114.3]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F02F5F2986 for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20160806211255.GI12988@foo.stuge.se> <49994385-FEB7-4951-B324-ED1BC66899D4@gentoo.org> <20160807073824.GA1030@daphne> <20160808013213.15ca7982@katipo2.lan> From: Alec Ten Harmsel Message-ID: <3e5ea9a9-5ed1-8ea8-9434-2b4046642a25@alectenharmsel.com> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 10:46:14 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b5b614ef-f93b-4934-b3e8-bfea575e05da X-Archives-Hash: 541d63fe8c63eeb426addf6189661424 On 8/7/2016 10:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I have no idea where James gets his information from, but I suspect it's > a niche market where uni students do "clustering" - whatever that is. Many of the new frameworks/servers that are developed for running or managing clusters are written in Java, which is what he's referring to as far as I can tell. Hadoop, spark, hive, pig, marathon, cloudstack, zookeeper, and many more (see http://www.apache.org for plentiful examples) are all JVM-based languages. University students do not touch on anything related to clustering until graduate level courses (I just graduated from the University of Michigan), unless they work on that stuff as a job or in their spare time. > The interesting apps out there are mostly running python, go and > (sometimes) lua. And that's what I observe in my day job - > business/mobile ISP. > Yes and no, depending on what you find interesting. Plenty of web applications are written in python or ruby, but I think it's safe to assume that most high-traffic organizations have mounds of Java and C/C++ services on the backend for various reasons. Alec