From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JqGgm-0007m0-Bx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:53:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F6C6E02B3; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74338E02B3 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c8so1156799ana.47 for ; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=f6HbIuE9URypwmJO0mvIUPBiZjTA0UgXSw/lz0FVJIk=; b=qeUwAkmfF7Nzs2ZNLyJnFmW9R4KdqcTT5kw3ew/oc2hXxNy1y3XYYVjVYYjq26avhj98ZcvL9oH2Minb2ZocCEX46qC5soyFxYrMR2uWVk9zbNGZrJdMw1igUJWveVqj47kYaB1xw7kLKTOPQNE0vFZTJNu16MH86kSjsGo8iaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=D8C8u5Qi3CRQ5PxJm4FvmxobLrBvlU2n19vP+tZqGB33W3eLUPboiZsmNHp0LvX1QXhjGzTNL2oD75qA0N1geKAdstKYvQ+ugbbqrrDFlYAvitwgSHs4+oDdZlEJB5Wi/GVnPCJKTd24cK5aQBBXHj0FY1sCVFB0i0SYOKmeaFM= Received: by 10.100.140.15 with SMTP id n15mr10917985and.94.1209340426335; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.45.17 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c32af40804271653s17381f34w2ce9c3ed28484078@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:53:46 +0200 From: "Santiago M. Mola" Sender: cooldwind@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Nazi symbols on Gentoo (and other offending content) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0bd37fc6cdadab4b X-Archives-Salt: cbe08a9b-f606-4dae-9ca5-a591b5516a55 X-Archives-Hash: 0fe4ee787777464e2c3f59a5e3e3f6a6 Hi there, Other devs and me have been worried about the use of Nazi symbols on forums.gentoo.org [1]. While some find it specially a problem because of German laws (which it seems make illegal to visit webs with such symbols), I'm more worried because these symbols, as well as others related to recent dictatorships or "hate-promoting" movements, are offending for a good amount of people in the community. The offending nature of Nazi symbols, and their total irrelevance in a distro community makes me wonder "why the hell should we have this on our communication channels?". The fact that political and religious discussions are also irrelevant in this context makes me wonder also "why the hell should we keep any of this potentially offending and flame-maker?" Gentoo is a community made of people of all around the world, with different cultures and political views, and we have to work together. So why don't put the politics aside and continue the work respecting each other? The Internet is plenty of forums where people can flame about politics or create a Nazi alter-ego and offend each other, Gentoo should not be a place for this purpose. Thoughts? Isn't there anyone else willing to keep Nazi symbols outside forums? If yes, at the expense of punting all politics or just as a special case? Regards, PS.1 - An apology for forum mods because the avatar I've been using may offend them, my purpose was to raise awareness of the issue of using extremely offending content on the forums. While I think my avatar is valid, I prefer to calm things down and try to work out the issue with forum mods without attacking. I decided to remove the avatar. PS.2- Before someone says Godwin, this is not using Nazis in a discussion about something else, this is directly a discussion about Nazi symbols. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-480537.html -- Santiago M. Mola Jabber ID: cooldwind@gmail.com -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list