From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-83831-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C213C1382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:09:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A967E0D3C; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net [84.93.230.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3A81E0D34 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([212.159.46.162]) by smtp with ESMTP id lhpEe2a4j1CfrlhpFeOVcS; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:09:17 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=AIAyyCpH c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:117 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:17 a=13zjGPudsaEWiJwPRgMA:9 a=7mOBRU54AAAA:8 a=lAcBk8pDtrmNpdnCBA4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-4fxh4liLrv02_-ywvcA:9 a=ONNS8QRKHyMA:10 a=wa9RWnbW_A1YIeRBVszw:22 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180211224234.GB6747@linux1.home> <CAPDOV4_M6r+xsEeFsjXjAbxO6ZnMP+GVfHVyU3+K_oJ80sMLTg@mail.gmail.com> <20180212165506.GA23201@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <1f63e6de-999d-e0cd-990b-8813293357d6@gentoo.org> <a1ec3099-11d7-a779-c9c8-a17bbe1d753e@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com> From: "M. 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Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> Openpgp: id=BA266E0525CFAB101523351B4C30334F93C22371 Message-ID: <3a8cea3b-e0e1-4e41-8a20-76895348dd54@iee.org> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:09:11 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nGyWB9W9hL5sc38q5r7rlx6ZJLzwInctT" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMOIj/aq9XHBuiEOQkZBjKHAAD996+0ZjR6eU3Qk2vxRcmW3LGTDz30oX5lMRlsqzinVUpFzW4l6iIPelt9xs0nAaq/MtolkFnS4pgAr3cmnApNikwsK rKq+GNc8x4rqP/9ptRhF2Ny0OXS+36g5KH5B9agBmTpiay099B20JWZ97hBrTbJq9qlSJsHWC9z2Ow== X-Archives-Salt: 87d1428c-3d1e-4d0c-bf66-1dda38fa8b12 X-Archives-Hash: c7c5d444d4806b4bdeb0cd3f75bef0ce This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nGyWB9W9hL5sc38q5r7rlx6ZJLzwInctT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GOcwYswXATLPaJoGXb7SlrYq3qaUPJ3qi"; protected-headers="v1" From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <3a8cea3b-e0e1-4e41-8a20-76895348dd54@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals References: <20180211224234.GB6747@linux1.home> <CAPDOV4_M6r+xsEeFsjXjAbxO6ZnMP+GVfHVyU3+K_oJ80sMLTg@mail.gmail.com> <20180212165506.GA23201@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <1f63e6de-999d-e0cd-990b-8813293357d6@gentoo.org> <a1ec3099-11d7-a779-c9c8-a17bbe1d753e@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com> --GOcwYswXATLPaJoGXb7SlrYq3qaUPJ3qi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB On 13/02/18 20:57, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85= n > <chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote: >> Dean Stephens schrieb: >> >>>> Suppose that the council decides to accept an appeal from comrel. Is= it >>>> a conflict of interest for a member of the council who is also a mem= ber >>>> of comrel to vote in the appeal? If it isn't, it is at least a prett= y >>>> strong perception that it is. >>>> >>> Why? How? Exactly what sort of conflicting interest is supposed to be= >>> present? >> I think in Comrel vs. Council is not a conflict of interest, but rathe= r >> throwing the appeals process off balance. Can you expect someone to ne= utrally >> review material and actions (question the authenticity of evidence, id= entify >> potential misconduct, etc.) that they themselves used to build the cas= e >> against the reprimanded? >> > I hope that Comrel does not consider it their main duty to build cases > against community members. They're supposed to investigate, mediate, > and take action if necessary. They aren't prosecutors. > Do you have evidence either to support or contradict your case? 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