From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3164 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Nov 2003 09:28:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 24051 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2003 09:28:19 -0000 Message-ID: <3FBF2C48.2000809@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:28:40 -0500 From: Stewart Honsberger Organization: Gentoo Linux User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031022 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Portnoy CC: Matthew Kennedy , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <200311191114.25081.pauldv@gentoo.org> <200311211050.59578.jasonbstubbs@mailandnews.com> <8765hdu4zg.fsf@killr.ath.cx> <20031121183551.GE2221@gentoo.org> <87ptfk7uhu.fsf@killr.ath.cx> <20031122073212.GA1639@cerberus.oppresses.us> In-Reply-To: <20031122073212.GA1639@cerberus.oppresses.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo internal structure X-Archives-Salt: 21898e42-dc79-47dd-b0cd-9e9f34e7442d X-Archives-Hash: 0121a099660a4d505a86572afa664037 Jon Portnoy wrote: >>I suppose I am dismayed that we are failing to promote free software >>over proprietary software. > > We are promoting giving users a choice. What we are failing at is trying > to force them into using free software. > > Quick poll of people reading this thread: Would you like to see the > removal of nonfree software from the tree? That means things like > vmware, the java packages, etc. > > Or perhaps someone should start a poll in the forums in Gentoo Chat > about it. Much as I'm an advocate of free, open software - I'm also an advocate of choice. I'm also practical; I firmly believe in using the tool that does the job. There are just some applications where free/open software hasn't matured enough to be used in, eg, enterprise or even small business (or, for that matter, on the desktop). I'd rather be able to use the proprietary software until the f/o stuff is mature enough for me to take the leap. Not everybody has the time to debug all of their software packages for several weeks before they can get full use out of it. :P -- Stewart Honsberger Gentoo Developer http://www.snerk.org/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list