From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12830 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Oct 2003 02:59:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 13526 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2003 02:59:32 -0000 Message-ID: <3F95F292.9080609@ineoconcepts.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:59:30 -0400 From: Eric Sammer Organization: Ineo Concepts User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <3F95C443.1000203@ineoconcepts.com> <1066782966.21013.7.camel@sfa237013.richmond.edu> <3F95D400.6060606@ineoconcepts.com> <1066786546.21015.10.camel@sfa237013.richmond.edu> <3F95E756.8010304@ineoconcepts.com> <1066790953.21017.27.camel@sfa237013.richmond.edu> In-Reply-To: <1066790953.21017.27.camel@sfa237013.richmond.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on samus X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] xfree, synaptics, and kernel 2.6.x X-Archives-Salt: f2ff025f-6d4a-4024-9106-0da50f9a6ca2 X-Archives-Hash: c0488abaaa45525d3ca2013de7f0e3d2 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > There's no requirement to recompile xfree unless you _need_ a feature of > the newer synaptics driver. Yes it is nice to have the latest version, > but there's no purpose unless you require a fix in it. The feature I need is for it to work with 2.6.0-test8 which .13 doesn't. I wasn't sure if .14 did, but I'm building it now to test. > I'm glad you can appreciate my counterargument. Always. It's silly to debate (or argue, or whatever) and not listen. That's like fighting with a goldfish - fun, but it never gets you anywhere. > There is nearly zero maintenance cost within the xfree ebuild for the > synaptics driver (simply change the driver version and go), and similar > holds true for the ebuild. I expect any extra maintenance caused between > 13 October (when I committed synaptics) and whenever 4.3.99.15 is > released to be negligible. What I meant by easier to maintain is simply remembering to bump the version number in the SYNDRV="xx" line (or whatever the variable is called). >>There is also the fact that xfree 4.3.99.* is still >>masked so I didn't think releasing a new version of the ebuild would be >>a big deal as it is uber-unstable. > > In actuality, it is not uber-unstable. I've been running 4.3.99.x for a > fair while and have yet to encounter a crash that is 4.3.99.x-specific. > It's masked by virtue of being a development series. I didn't mean unstable as in code, but in name. I was assuming that many gentoo-ers (at least the ones that frequent freenode's #gentoo) do not unmask hard-masked items like the .99 series of xfree86. >>It's rather subjective, and as someone who has to use the combination in >>question (xfree 4.3.99.x, synaptics, and the 2.6 kernel series (due to >>an IGP320M chipset)), it would be easier to have the xfree ebuild use >>the synaptics ebuild rather than pull it in itself. > > You don't need to use 2.6 for IGP chipsets. See the 2.4 patches: > http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314 The 2.4 patches never worked on this laptop, so in fact, I do. (HP 4420, ATI Radeon Mobility, AMD 2200M) >>It's not that big of >>a deal, really. I can do it and just use it in PORTAGE_OVERLAY if it's >>not something that gentoo is interested in. > > This isn't Gentoo, this is me. You're welcome to grab the 4.3.99.14-r1 > ebuild from my overlay if you choose [1], but I don't consider it > appropriate for committing. Emerge it with `INPUT_DEVICES="synaptics" > emerge xfree` or preferably set INPUT_DEVICES in make.conf. > > 1. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/overlay/ By "gentoo" I meant the maintainer of the ebuild and by maintainer of the ebuild, I meant you. Sorry for the confusion. Not a big deal either way. Thanks, in any event. -- Eric Sammer eric@ineoconcepts.com http://www.ineoconcepts.com -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list