From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26026 invoked by uid 1002); 24 Aug 2003 07:22:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 17599 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2003 07:22:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3F4867BF.7060708@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:22:39 -0400 From: Stewart Honsberger Organization: Gentoo Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevyn Shortell Cc: Marius Mauch , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <20030823210429.57e7e85c.genone@genone.de> <3F47C082.8020900@gentoo.org> <1061670566.6740.16.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1061670566.6740.16.camel@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] reason for dhcpcd in system profile ? X-Archives-Salt: c16ec67d-9f76-4d3a-8779-b4c8211948fb X-Archives-Hash: 5c5691fb40eaef062afc07c989d79938 Kevyn Shortell wrote: > Well I for one would be completely SOL without it, my isp is sane and > doesn't use PPPoE thank god. They do however use DHCP. And in case your > wondering who my ISP is, it's Comcast Cable, which probably has more > users than SOHO DSL. It isn't as if they are a little ISP. In Canada, DSL accounts for atleast half, perhaps even greater number of all broadband subscribers. > Also, every wireless gateway on the planet uses DHCP, same goes for > basic firewall boxes. > > I don't see the need to tell all those users that they have to do > additional things in order to get thier box on the net during the > install process. Do you? It doesn't hurt anything to leave it. During the install process I would expect to have dhcpcd and pppoe support included. We weren't talking about the install process, we were talking about the base system. As for what it 'hurts', nothing, per se. The only effects I was referring to is runaway packages in the base system profile which can cause problems down the road. For example, it's better to have as minimal a base system as possible to minimize support and allow flexibility. Perl 5 in the base system is a potential issue. It's rather large, and there are a significant number of users who have no use for it. Its inclusion should likely be investigated moreso than that of dhcpcd. FWIW, I don't feel terribly strongly one way or another with regards to dhcpcd. -- Stewart Honsberger http://blackdeath.snerk.org/ "Capitalists, by nature, organize to protect themselves. -- Geeks, by nature, resist organizaion." -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list