From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24841 invoked by uid 1002); 21 Aug 2003 05:58:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 20249 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2003 05:58:49 -0000 Message-ID: <3F445FB7.3050808@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 01:59:19 -0400 From: Stewart Honsberger Organization: Gentoo Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Portnoy Cc: Eric Olinger , gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <200308190133.21887.luke-jr@gentoo.org> <20030819064706.GB1138@gentoo.org> <200308200112.09533.luke-jr@gentoo.org> <1061383163.415.8.camel@vertigo> <20030820160508.00002737.moixa@gmx.ch> <20030820152740.GC30449@time> <20030820185654.103f6347.svyatogor@gentoo.org> <1061394716.414.42.camel@vertigo> <20030820093131.00001665.EvvL@RustedHalo.net> <3F445510.1070501@gentoo.org> <20030821054220.GA3498@cerberus.oppresses.us> In-Reply-To: <20030821054220.GA3498@cerberus.oppresses.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat X-Archives-Salt: 1ea3b215-af48-4a10-a9ac-1e6b2bfac51a X-Archives-Hash: 963861334bfc0aef2b11ec6469c83b8a Jon Portnoy wrote: > Why? The amount of editing done prior to getting your system to a point > where you can emerge vim (i.e., after emerge system) is minimal. > Offhand, I can only think of make.conf. make.conf, fstab, hostname are the basics. /install.txt is a possibility, though less handles that. > nano is more than enough for editing make.conf. We're trying to _cut > down_ on bloat, not increase it. But if ViM and Perl and the Kitchen Sink libraries are already installed on the CD, removing Perl will cut down bloat. ;> It's just a matter of degree. Re: my previous message about limits, if we're doing this solely in the interests of cutting down bloat, we could throw a few lines about "echo" and stdout redirection in install.txt and forego the editor altogether. (Who remembers 'edlin'?) > Okay, so merge after emerge system; why do you need it for editing a > single file (make.conf)? Don't underestimate the complexity of editing make.conf. There are presently ${VERY_LARGE_NUMBER} of variables to consider in the file, and I know my USE="" line is quite long (atleast two wraps at 80 character screen width). > (Oh, and try Esc+W to turn on/off autowrap in nano. You don't need to > specify -w.) That's about as simple/complex, obvious/obscure as such a command in ViM. -- Stewart Honsberger http://blackdeath.snerk.org/ "Capitalists, by nature, organize to protect themselves. -- Geeks, by nature, resist organizaion." -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list