From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30465 invoked by uid 1002); 15 Jul 2003 19:09:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 20343 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 19:09:24 -0000 Message-ID: <3F14515C.6050506@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:09:16 -0400 From: Stewart Honsberger Organization: Gentoo Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030710 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Davis Cc: gentoo-core@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <20030715094234.6f6f2636.zhen@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20030715094234.6f6f2636.zhen@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Gentoo part IIa. X-Archives-Salt: 4136261a-283c-4511-b08f-b67e869b0824 X-Archives-Hash: 9d132efa36c47f4dbfd96fc4f621d16a John Davis wrote: > Step back for a minute and recognize the ramifications of those numbers. The product that > we baby and work on is used by over a _quarter of a million_ people. Over a _quarter of >a million_ people rely on our QA procedure for stable packages, our security, our openness. > No matter what your political philosophy, this fact should awe you. That's a point I'd have to disagree with you on. A quarter of a million people enjoy our quick turn-around time and ease for users to become involved in the development of the distribution. If they're relying on us for stability or any kind of guarantee of reliability, sorry, but they're in the wrong place. Debian, RedHat are thattaway --> Gentoo is a bleeding-edge hacker's distribution. It's Linux From Scratch with a package manager. It is not a corporate or enterprise platform. It could develop to the point where we maintain our current status quo *AND* we find ourselves with a stable branch upon which businesses can rely, but that is not Gentoo, nor will it be Gentoo if we overlay it with politics and beaurocracy to the point where users are afraid to get involved and we find a wedge between the developers and the user base. If it comes to such a time, I will resign as a developer. I didn't sign up for this to be some sort of elite beaurocrat with voting authority and managerial restrictions. I signed up for it so that I could contribute ebuilds without going through a middle-man. Your proposal was well written, obviously thought out, and quite eloquent. However, I think you'd be better served to submit it to Debian-Private. -- Stewart Honsberger Gentoo Developer http://www.snerk.org/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list