From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15886 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Apr 2003 07:08:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 30771 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 07:08:18 -0000 Message-ID: <3E990CE2.6000707@omegabyte.com> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 03:08:18 -0400 From: "Derek J. Belrose" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030408 Minotaur/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brd@alumni.clemson.edu CC: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <1050210300.11741.1.camel@osiris.ripple.be> <3E98F7C1.9020809@omegabyte.com> <1050216613.23405.10.camel@Jester.poody.net> In-Reply-To: <1050216613.23405.10.camel@Jester.poody.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GUI installer X-Archives-Salt: a8fc0aec-aa1e-4bbf-82d1-ce1f02f71ad0 X-Archives-Hash: 06324636f6026e9eefc06f4aab4ca20a The only problem I see with doing this is how to represent it in a user friendly, yet power user accessible fashion. Maybe if you are using anaconda, you could have the power user abilities under "Amazing super power user" setting :) Grabbing the processor isn't difficult, build a small database of known processors and compare it to /proc/cpuinfo. At this point, what would you use for a install? Stage1, 2 or 3? Stage 3 would be the quickest in my opinion as well giving the user a really good launching pad for an optimized system. Cliff Free wrote: >I think a GUI installer would be great if done correctly. The >interface, obviously, should be easy to use, but in the spirit of >Gentoo, shouldn't limit the user with what he can do. On a side note, I >also think it would be cool to have the ability to detect the processor >type(s) and include some optimization flags for the detected >processor(s) (I also feel this feature should be able to be toggled so >hard-core power-users would still have the option to fine-tune to their >heart's content, and that by default the feature would be OFF. Maybee >the detection system would only augment CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS in >make.conf. and/or make.conf settings would override what's detected.) >Just my 2 cents worth. Doing this correctly could prove to be a >daunting task. > >On Sun, 2003-04-13 at 01:38, Derek J. Belrose wrote: > > >>Is the Mandrake install system based on RedHat's anaconda? If it is, >>it's nicely written python...but you'll have to seriously hack it to get >>rid of the neat little rpm stuff :) >> >>I'd be willing to help out a bit on this too...gotta get it going for >>Gentoo-Sparc :) >> >>Derek >> >>Justin Whitney wrote: >> >> >> >>>I think some or all of Mandrake's install system is under GPL as well, >>>so you might want to check that out. >>> >>>--Justin >>> >>>On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 19:04, Jeff Rose wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hello, >>>> I'm pretty new to gentoo, but I am an instant convert. Just a >>>>few months of emerge bliss and now I'm an avid supporter. Anyway, I'm >>>>thinking about starting a summer project and I'm pondering the idea of a >>>>gui installer. I've been looking around a bit and it doesn't look like >>>>anyone is working on one. Is that true? If there isn't already a project >>>>then I think I'll give it a whirl. I know, I know, gentoo is so great >>>>because it allows you to customize and tweak the hell out of everything. >>>>That is completely true. So, an installer would have to allow just as >>>>much but it could take care of the mundane details for those who aren't >>>>interested or knowledgable enough. >>>> I haven't been around to see what people discuss in terms of the >>>>installer so I'm sorry if this is all stuff that you have gone over >>>>hundreds of times. Even more minimal than a gui installer, have you >>>>thought about adding more scripts to do the standard directory setup, >>>>download, chroot... type of stuff? >>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>>-Jeff >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list