[gentoo-dev] New releases & Nvidia drivers

[gentoo-dev] New releases & Nvidia drivers

[Codewordt Gentoo Users]

Hello

With recent new releases (XFree 4.3.0, Gentoo RC3, gentoo-sources-2.4.20)
I was wondering if I could make a plea that the new Nvidia drivers
1.0.4191 be unmasked?  They are already being widely utilised by the rest
of the distributions and certainly I've not had any problems with it
myself.  Problems may occur when upgrading or downgrading but on a fresh
install in my experience it is more robust.

If it is not at all possible to unmask can I be given an idea of timescale
and specific causes out of curiosity?

Many thanks



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Re: [gentoo-dev] New releases & Nvidia drivers

[Codewordt Gentoo Users]

Robert Thomas said:
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> | Hello
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> | With recent new releases (XFree 4.3.0, Gentoo RC3,
> gentoo-sources-2.4.20) | I was wondering if I could make a plea that the
> new Nvidia drivers | 1.0.4191 be unmasked?  They are already being
> widely utilised by the rest | of the distributions and certainly I've
> not had any problems with it | myself.  Problems may occur when
> upgrading or downgrading but on a fresh | install in my experience it is
> more robust.
> |
> | If it is not at all possible to unmask can I be given an idea of
> timescale | and specific causes out of curiosity?
> |
> | Many thanks
> |
> |
> |
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> |
>
> Tuxracer crashes with the new drivers, and performace is worse on my
> box. If you want to use them, there's nothing stopping you, but I think
> they should stay masked. Hopefully the next version Nvidia releases will
> ~ be better.
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> Robert Thomas
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> Email: gtg663h@mail.gatech.edu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New releases & Nvidia drivers

[Emiel Kollof]

On Friday 28 February 2003 10:54, Codewordt Gentoo Users wrote:
> Hello
>
> With recent new releases (XFree 4.3.0, Gentoo RC3, gentoo-sources-2.4.20)
> I was wondering if I could make a plea that the new Nvidia drivers
> 1.0.4191 be unmasked?  They are already being widely utilised by the rest
> of the distributions and certainly I've not had any problems with it
> myself.  Problems may occur when upgrading or downgrading but on a fresh
> install in my experience it is more robust.

I disagree. 3d performance is better but 2d performance is abysmal, also due 
to the new drivers not using xaa anymore (they use their own stuff in the new 
drivers). Also, some machines don't have problems, and some do. See here:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14

I say keep 'em masked. Of course there's nothing wrong with you guys using 
them. If they work for you, great.

> If it is not at all possible to unmask can I be given an idea of timescale
> and specific causes out of curiosity?

Maybe next driver release? 

Cheers,
Emiel

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New releases & Nvidia drivers

[Antony Suter]

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 02:11, Emiel Kollof wrote:
> On Friday 28 February 2003 10:54, Codewordt Gentoo Users wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > With recent new releases (XFree 4.3.0, Gentoo RC3, gentoo-sources-2.4.20)
> > I was wondering if I could make a plea that the new Nvidia drivers
> > 1.0.4191 be unmasked?  They are already being widely utilised by the rest
> > of the distributions and certainly I've not had any problems with it
> > myself.  Problems may occur when upgrading or downgrading but on a fresh
> > install in my experience it is more robust.
> 
> I disagree. 3d performance is better but 2d performance is abysmal, also due 

Agreed. 2D performance has some major problems in the 1.0-4191 version.
Apparently they rewrote much of the 2D code, partly to do better with
XRENDER. IMO they are still beta, and have significant memory leak(s).

I'm speaking from the point of view of someone who has avidly installed
every version since about 0.9.4. But with just this release I have been
forced to go back to 1.0-3123. Yes i've tried to endure the bad side of
1.0-4191 several times but i've always had to go back.

> to the new drivers not using xaa anymore (they use their own stuff in the new 

FWIW I don't think they ever used xaa. They've always had their own
kernel module.

> drivers). Also, some machines don't have problems, and some do. See here:
> 
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14

My experiences with 1.0-4191 are well documented on that forum.

> I say keep 'em masked. Of course there's nothing wrong with you guys using 
> them. If they work for you, great.

I definitely agree.

> > If it is not at all possible to unmask can I be given an idea of timescale
> > and specific causes out of curiosity?
> 
> Maybe next driver release? 

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- "Your post-apocalyptic caffeine source! :)"


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Re: [gentoo-dev] New releases & Nvidia drivers

[Emiel Kollof]

Op vrijdag 28 februari 2003 20:01, schreef Antony Suter:

> FWIW I don't think they ever used xaa. They've always had their own
> kernel module.

The 3123 glx driver uses the X11R6 xaa. I never mentioned xaa in my XF86Config 
file (nor do I have any modules loaded that explicitly implies xaa), but:

(II) Loading sub module "xaa"
(II) LoadModule: "xaa"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a
(II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5

It still loads it. AFAICR the newer 4191 didn't. I also went back to 3123. 
This behaviour is also mentioned in the forum.

I do hope the newer drivers in the 4x series get better though. 

Cheers,
Emiel



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[gentoo-dev] aspell + distcc

[Amiel Martin]

I am using distcc with another gentoo user.
when compiling aspell, gave me a huge list of unresolved symbol errors,
which diddnt happen when I removed distcc from the features list.
is there an ebuild option to disable features?

I also have a few other questions.
how do I request packages for portage?
and what is sandbox, or rather, where can I fond info on sandbox?


Thanks, 

Amiel


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[gentoo-dev] colorcc

[Amiel Martin]

why doesnt emerge use colorgcc
does emerge set its own PATH?
or am I doing something wrong

thanks
amiel


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Re: [gentoo-dev] colorcc

[Zach Welch]

Amiel Martin wrote:
 > why doesnt emerge use colorgcc
 > does emerge set its own PATH?
 > or am I doing something wrong
 >

See bugs 2679 and 15387.

Cheers,

Zach Welch
Gentoo ARM Developer



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