From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DMARC_REJECT,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_FAKE_HELO_DOTCOM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com [24.93.67.84]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B5AAC67E for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:25:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail8.nc.rr.com (fe8 [24.93.67.55]) by ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9MIPEiZ014063 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yahoo.com ([24.88.245.62]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:25:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3DB59715.455ADC02@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:21:09 -0400 From: "3.2.3" Reply-To: ifoufo@yahoo.com Organization: am big you as ink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <20021021203305.GE20577@freedom.gentoo.org> <006e01c279df$bee790b0$8204dca7@northamerica.corp.microsoft.com> <3DB5A6D8.2070108@fastwebnet.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: When is Gentoo 1.4 going to be released? Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: e81a5802-2543-4448-acfa-1fb71673e48e X-Archives-Hash: a9ca263b3bbbea799e0bcb596910afbd Stefano Peluchetti wrote: > > Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > People are looking for a general idea of a release schedule. I can not > > blame them for asking and I can not blame them for being frustrated when > > they don't get an answer, even if it is a ballpark figure. > > I am 100% of your opinion. > If you search in the forums you will see that also A LOT of gentoo users > thinks the same. whoa right there. a lot of people are on crack, too. especially where concerns a bunch wondering when someone is going to hurry up and give them something for free. enough software in this world is tossed over the fence according to a schedule. i don't need any more software that was developed to a schedule. i've got enought of that at work. i need software that is actually ready when it is ready, whenever that is. i'm glad there is some. eye on the ball, not some bean counter's stopwatch. i don't know how realistic it is, but it seems to be expected to have a schedule for software if someone is paying for the development. and that causes an awful lot of crappy software to get developed. not to mention, missed schedules anyway. a pmi study showed only 27% of software projects meet schedule (up from 19% a decade ago). so much for software schedules. what works for highway construction doesn't have much to do with software. a ballpark figure has been given more than once, and missed more than once. i say, enough. it's plain to see there is no point in such straw men, especially in free, volunteer, community efforts. obviously it will be ready when it's ready. and only when it's ready should i want it. -i wouldn't have it any other way!- in certain circumstances i would expect to hear, "are we there yet?" from the backseat. this is not one of them. > In fact the status of the development is covered by an incredible mistery... that is so untrue. bugs.gentoo.org. it's completely transparent. regards, chris calloway