From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F90AC76C for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:59:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from seul.org (adsl-62-167-176-116.adslplus.ch [62.167.176.116]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id g77FxEr24851 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 17:59:14 +0200 Message-ID: <3D5143D8.1030000@seul.org> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 17:59:20 +0200 From: Marko Mikulicic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Dist name... References: <3D4EAF0A.3010109@wazaah.homeunix.org> <200208071420.43729.arutha@gmx.de> <200208070738.43778.jsmith@kcco.com> <200208071457.14866.arutha@gmx.de> <20020807154324.GB24670@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: e4686150-a501-49cf-804b-59b19721ad97 X-Archives-Hash: 2e8ff8dbf1142776b162ee4f94408823 Fredrik Jagenheim wrote: > On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Alexander Gretencord wrote: > >>Well for some ppl now that someone tried to push the GNU/ part onto Gentoo >>it's this kind of "no, not after this" feeling :) This doesn't bring us >>anywhere it's not the users decision anyway. >> > > > Oh, but let's make it a users decision. I propose a new flag in USE > that will let the user name the system 'GNU/Linux' or 'Linux' or > 'Gentoo GNU/Linux, the best dist for politically correct power users'. > > Now, let's flame over what the default should be. ;) > > No, I'm not serious. Unless it's about code. > > //Humming, pondering if he's naming it GNU/Linux because he used GNU > tools to build it, should he then name his Great Novel after the > typewriter? ;) Since at the heat of a novel there is always a bunch of words then one should call his novel: Word. (or Verb, Noun, Sentence, Meaning) :-) I think the problem is that Linux is not like "Windows", or "Macintosh": it is not the name of a product, but of a kernel. It's not about tools here but about a product name. I don't care about GNU/Linux, or Linux, but I have noticed that many users (newbies) are confused with all this Linux 7.2/8.2/6.4 Suse/RedHat/blabla. They associate the number with the version and the "distribution" also with some kind of version (like XP). IMHO it should be more correct to say just "Gentoo" when talking about the disto, "Gentoo linux" when talking to Linux (kernel) specific issues of Gentoo (like Gentoo/SPARC or PPC for hw platform issues), but now it's too late :-) none will think of Linux just of a kernel because it is the symbol of the entire set of gnu an non-gnu software which we all use. I think that the problem will be more real when some distro (I hope gentoo will) will try to use Hurd or some bsd kernel as an alternative; then it will be important to state Gentoo Linux, as opposed to Gentoo freebsd or Gentoo Hurd. Marko