From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from fed1mtao03.cox.net (fed1mtao03.cox.net [68.6.19.242]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D112AABD51 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cox.net ([68.2.109.166]) by fed1mtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020726040841.GVCT1378.fed1mtao03.cox.net@cox.net> for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:08:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3D40CB55.3090600@cox.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:08:53 -0700 From: Gary Whysong User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [gentoo-dev] Sorry, I Quit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 7998c032-4834-4ce1-ba74-a0045591faf5 X-Archives-Hash: dd208035a11927ce1b2cdd45c5367497 I've been a Linux user since 1994 and looked forward to trying Gentoo Linux 1.2 on my IBM laptop. I cut my teeth on Slackware (kernel 0.94) and certainly have compiled my share of apps. from scratch. However, I doubt anyone is a complete master of all aspects of Linux. I certainly don't pretend to be. Initially, I had minor problems getting a basic Gentoo system up. Networking gave me a little trouble due to hardware problems, but those were resolved fairly quickly. My problem is with your portage system. Basically, almost 40% of the software I've tried to install doesn't. Some of it dies with no error messages, other's with the inability to simply create directories. Open Office wouldn't compile because your glibc's are too old and I couldn't find any newer one's on your site. Permission errors abound which is rather interesting when one is running as root. You're web site maintains that your portage system is better (in design?) than Debian's apt-get and BSD's ports systems. Unfortunately, you have yet to prove it to me. I've never tried Debian and won't, since I don't care for the "Debian attitude". I have used Free BSD's ports system and have yet to see it fail. Unfortunately, I can personally attest to the fact that portage does fail, and often. With that said, I would like to compliment you on a great concept for a Linux distribution. I strongly believe you are on the right track. Unfortunately, your package system needs significant improvement. I wish you the best of luck and may try your distribution again sometime in the future. However, at the present, I need a Linux system with working applications more quickly than the week of spare time I've already taken trying to build one with Gentoo. Thus, I have little alternative but to give up on Gentoo and install Mandrake or SuSE. I wish you the best of luck in improving your Linux distribution and look forwared to trying it again in the future. Sincerely, Gary Whysong Assoc. Professor Environmental Resources Arizona State Univ. East. (Gary.Whysong@asu.edu)