From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [200.11.225.120]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B19AC3C2 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:34:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gentoo.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g53IaLD07196 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:36:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3CFBB725.4090603@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 14:36:21 -0400 From: "Victor R. Prada" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020429 X-Accept-Language: es, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Installer (2) [LARGE] References: <15611.45955.69545.21749@igor.jsc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: b65a5597-0a99-4656-b8ea-501d90817afb X-Archives-Hash: 64da8f45b7064009df89b6b0d4b768c8 Jeffrey D. Kowing wrote: Hello Part of the job that we are making with the Anaconda installer is modify thosw weird path used by RedHat and generate config files in the normal /etc (or in anycase the /etc/config-files needed by gentoo) Besides this, another work that we are making in Corvus is a version of webmin for Gentoo Linux. Thanks Víctor Prada >Grant Goodyear writes: > > I agree. In fact, I like the idea of having the manual install, > > the anaconda gui, and a cli openbsd-like installer (that a couple > > of people seem to be working upon) all available. First and > > foremost, Gentoo Linux is about flexibility for the _users_! > >One danger about auto-installers and auto-configurators is that they >often add complexity to the system to make it simpler for the >auto-tools but more difficult for system administrators trying to >figure out what was done "behind the scenes." Sometimes the >configurators create their own special files that then override or >recreate the standard /etc files. This makes it difficult for those >of us who just like to go straight to the /etc files and make the >change. Also I've often followed scripts around for hours in RedHat >trying to figure out why my system is doing something I did not tell >it to do. The scripts are often quite complex because they try to be >so smart. > >I do not mean to discourage those who are building the auto tools, >just hopefully something to keep in mind. As a side note, I >understand that configuration tools like webmin are pretty good about >simply being a nice front-end for working with the standard /etc files >without, for example, creating mysterious "secret" webmin >configuration files that override your own changes. > >My two or maybe just one cents worth. All gentoo developers, thanks >for you excellent work! > > > -- Lic. Víctor Prada Lider Técnico Latinux-Gentoo Corvus Latinoamérica c.a. Caracas - Venezuela