From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_NXDOMAIN, DMARC_MISSING,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from dtlnk-isp-out.tnet.co.za (garratt.tnet.co.za [196.31.118.227]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A65B3AC39C for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 04:16:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 152.108.3.241 by dtlnk-isp-out.tnet.co.za (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 03 May 2002 11:26:52 +0200 Received: from transtel.co.za ([152.108.3.84]) by ttexmgw01.transtel.co.za (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 2002050311111009:19400 ; Fri, 3 May 2002 11:11:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3CD2558A.6030808@transtel.co.za> Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 11:16:58 +0200 From: Jan Henkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020417 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on TTEXMGW01/Servers/Transtel(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/03/2002 11:11:10 AM, Serialize by Router on TTEXMGW01/Servers/Transtel(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/03/2002 11:11:12 AM, Serialize complete at 05/03/2002 11:11:12 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Subject: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo install methods Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: bc2c07ea-aaa4-476d-a3d9-6787ac582baf X-Archives-Hash: aeba3c66d3d3c6a1670da654d33f1330 Hi all, I'm in the process of getting "geared" in getting Gentoo up and running. The reasons for me actually trying Gentoo are quite diverse, like being bored with Mandrake, cheesed at RedHat, dissappointed with Slackware (no native pam) etc. However, I'm a big OpenBSD fan, and what I see from your portage system looks very much like what Theo and his boys are using (with some steroids in your case). Very nice so far! I'll let you know how things are progressing, because in my case installation is going to take quite a while (P133 with 32Mb RAM). Just a thought (I'm sure you were posed this question before...), how about making a set of source CD's available that can be accessed by portage as an alternative source of software? Debian's APT can do this, and even if I don't like Debian much I find that a very powerful feature. The main reason is that in developing countries like where I am (South Africa) Internet bandwidth is at a huge premium. Most people here would balk at the idea of installing an entire OS over the net, just having to do it yet again next time they install. Over here the run of the mill line clocks in at only 64 Kilobits per second (8 kilobytes), which is only a little bit faster than a 56k analogue modem. Get my drift? Anyway, have you looked at devising an ISO update scheme like Sorcery (or whatever they are calling themselves today...) Linux? They follow almost the same basic idea as you guys, but you can download their installation media as an ISO or sets of ISO's, and then update the ISO images with xdelta patches. That means you only download ISO images once. Neat idea! But even if one has to have a set of static Gentoo ISO images for basic installs, that would be preferable over not having them at all. You can always simply update certain packages later on (like OpenSSH etc.). Nuff said for now. I'll pop you an Email when I'm finished with my installation "project". -- Regards, Jan Henkins Project Manager: Transtel Linux Project Tel: (011) 359-1024 Cell: (083) 379-6890