From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_REJECT, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from goliath.dnshome.org (c-24-98-65-184.atl.client2.attbi.com [24.98.65.184]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3788CAC706 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:20:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from acm.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by goliath.dnshome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77B412A42D for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3CC06DEC.2060802@acm.org> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:20:12 -0400 From: "Chad M. Huneycutt" Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020320 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] kernel PCMCIA References: <20020419170103.C117AAC6D0@chiba.3jane.net> <1019240560.24949.14.camel@bilbo.hobbiton.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Reply-To: chadh@cc.gatech.edu List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 9789fa5b-1486-4a35-a775-36fc7bc3e7d6 X-Archives-Hash: c4f3fb32ad3db918de3f1367b140f720 Gert Dewit wrote: > On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 1048, Chad wrote: >>Gert Dewit wrote: >>>I've posted following message on the gentoo-install forum, but I'd like to >>>know from you guys why gentoo is using the non-kernel PCMCIA stuff from >>>pcmcia-cs in the install initrd. >> >>Daniel put that on the install CD per my recommendation. My understanding >>is that pcmcia-cs has newer/more drivers than the kernel. If this is no >>longer correct, then we can certainly switch to kernel-only modules on the >>CD in the future. > > I'm affraid it's not that simple. As up to kernel version 2.4.16 or so > you were right that the pcmcia-cs drivers were more stable and had more > supported cards. Today I'm not sure about the situation. As far as I > know there are cards that are only supported by the kernel drivers > (the D-Link DFE 690TXD I use for instance as well as other cards that > are supported by their pci drivers) and there are cards that are only > supported by the pcmcia-cs drivers. I was afraid that would happen eventually. > The best way to go I think is use the kernel PCMCIA infrastructure > and drivers and add the pcmcia-cs "clients" (drivers) and cardmanager > utils. I think this is the strategy the RedHat boys also use. I don't understand how the two sets of modules could co-exist, but if it is possible, then I am all for it. > If you want me to check it out, just say so, I've got some spare time > while my new gentoo system is building on my laptop. By all means, please. Another option is to provide pcmcia-cs sources on the CD, so that if someone really needs it, they can build them from a stage2 system.