Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/init.d the real question!?

[Yannick Koehler <yannick.koehler@colubris.com>]

Corvus Corax wrote:
> This topic goes quite long now doesnt it?
> 
> Is it realle the question if /etc/init.d should be masked or not?
> 
> Since every user is able to change this himself i`d like to say the real 
> question is:
> What initial knowledge requirements should a newbee GENTOO USER have?
> 
> Here comes a list, what i think a gentoo user needs to know till now to 
> install a new gentoo onto his mashine:
> 
> general LINUX knowledge	-- the user should have used Linux before
> knowledge of bash 		-- you need it to install at least base-layout
> knowledge of nano / vi		-- without knowing how to use an editor he is lost <g>
> knowledge how to setup 
>    either LAN
>     or     PPPd / dialin
>     or     ADSL /cable / ...		-- without the user wont get a single ebuild
> 				    installed
> knowledge how to configure
>   the kernel			-- imagine one who has never made the
> 				   make menuconfig && make dep && make clean && make bzImage &&
> 				   make modules && make modules_install &&
> 				   cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot ...  --->completely LOST!
> knowledge how to setup
> his preferred boot-loader		-- which does he want? grub? lilo?, ... but you
> 				   need one.
> 
> knowledge how to compile	-- should know about the usual ./configure &&
> 				    make && make install series or not? 
> 
> knowledge of the portage sys	-- a user who trys to install gentoo without
> 				   having read the docs on gentoo.org? ooops <g>
> 
> to be continued...
> Hmmm don't you think a user who got thus far doesnt know how the init process 
> works, and what he has to do with the ._cfg00?_* files ? especially since 
> emerge prompts for them after every installed ebuild?
> 
> 
> my opinion, as an gentoo user --- Corvus V Corax
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Like I mentionned before, that's probably what gentoo require today. 
Once you have a distro on CD where it can process with some of those 
steps automatically you'll still get new users just because of the 
portage way of doing things.

And with the documentation available on the web site, someone may get to 
install gentoo without that much knowledge.

Yannick Koehler