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From: Mark Henderson <mark@kaluma.com>
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Subject: [gentoo-dev] bug reports & impressions on first gentoo install
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Hi Gentoo Team,
I just completed my first gentoo install over the weekend, and have a
few comments (or bug reports) that might make it easier for others in
future. I realise that Gentoo is pre version 1, but of course it can't
hurt to point out things that might be needed to get us there (if others
agree).
1) Documentation
----------------
Firstly let me say that the standard of the documentation is excellent.
However, I ran into a few problems with http://www.gentoo.org/doc/build.html
a) many of the important notes and comments appear beneath the code
listing they refer to, as apposed to before. This makes it too easy to
only see them after running the commands in question (I got caught when
compiling the kernel, and had to redo this when I read further down
about items such as devfs that had to be included). This is easily
fixed, and I'd be happy to take it on.
b) I think some of the notes and code listings might be slightly out of
sync with the current build process. (e.g. fstab - code listing 25 -
refers to /dev/hda1, dev/hda2, etc, while the fstab the build process
created for me has "/dev/BOOT", "dev/ROOT", "/dev/SWAP". I left this as
is, assuming it was a devfs way of doing things. I could be wrong though!)
c) The default "fstab" provided seems to assuming the use of ReiserFS
for the boot and root partitions. This seems to be out of date, and is
certainly confusing. I've used ext2 for /boot and ext3 for / and it
would have been _very_ helpful to have the correct parameters included
for each file system, allowing me to simply uncomment what I need.
Something along the lines of:
# Uncomment appropriate line, depending on required filesystem
#/dev/BOOT /boot ext2 parameters???? 1 1
#/dev/BOOT /boot ext3 parameters???? 1 1
#/dev/BOOT /boot reisferfs parameters???? 1 1
#/dev/ROOT / ext2 parameters???? 1 1
#/dev/ROOT / ext3 parameters???? 1 1
#/dev/ROOT / reisferfs parameters???? 1 1
d) Code listing 29: what is recommended - compiling network driver as
module or not? This could be dealt w/ in the section on compiling the
kernel, and could therefore be potentially made redundant
e) Code listing 32 seems to be redundant, as the same command is run in
30 or 31.
f) Code lsiting 36 should comment out the NT Workstation option in the
sample grub conf, and make it more clear that it is for people
dual-booting. Once again, I got caught here with the naming of the file,
only reading the note that followed after creating the file (but was
able to rename it, of course).
2) Bootstrap
----------
a) I bootstrapped over a 56k modem, and it would have made a huge
difference to the time taken if the required files could have been
downloaded in the background while compilation continued in the
forground, rather than having things happen in serial.
b) No mention was made regarding using mirrors in the documention for
the bootstrap process, although I've now discovered this would have been
possible (but would not have helped me in particular).
3) Errors
------
a) In code listing 37 I was not able to "umount /mnt/gentoo" as it said
it was busy
4) Using Gentoo
--------------
These comments might be due to my not being a Linux guru just yet, but
anyway...
a) The SSH host keys had not been created, although SSH seemed to be
installed. After consulting the man page, I fugured out how to create
them, and was then able to start SSH and log into the box via SSH. I
subsequently discovered by chance that there is a script
("/etc/init.d/ssh") that would have created these keys for me. Should
this not have been done as part of the installation process? (or at
least documented?).
b) Packages such as SSH, Apache, MySQL, etc, that I have installed using
emerge (sshd was already installed) do not start automatically when the
machine reboots. I have also noticed that there is not inet.d or xinet.d
installed by default. It's likely that this is all the desired
behaviour, but coming from Redhat, it has me slight confused.
c) I'm getting some error messages during the boot process, but they
scroll off the screen before I can see them, and I can't find them in
any log files (I installed metalog).
Well, that's it for now. I hope some of this has been useful. I'm
looking forward to getting to know Gentoo and its community better.
Cheers,
Mark