From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,DMARC_NONE, INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.65]) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15dzCc-00052I-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2001 13:16:10 -0600 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust18.tnt3.beaverton.or.da.uu.net [63.21.224.18]) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f83JFxH28023 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B93D6F7.5030301@earthlink.net> From: scott worley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RC6 Boot ISO reports + info [kind of long] References: <3B93D529.55E89599@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Sep 3 13:17:02 2001 X-Original-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:16:07 -0700 X-Archives-Salt: 19cebbc1-ee10-4955-bd21-ba4a1a96367c X-Archives-Hash: 63202d0999fec2124c9256a14eec02ce Donny Davies wrote: >Hi,devs > >I'm wondering whether some friendly gentoo'ers with SCSI setups won't >comment on our new self-booting build ISO system? > >I can report no success on a Symbios 53c810 controller, with the SCSI >BIOS on the MB, in combination with an Yamaha SCSI writer. Sounds >like a funny setup I know, but it can work. I seem to have forgotten which >Linux distribution's bootable installation CD it was that actually worked >for this particular setup. I must try to rediscover it to see what is different! > >The error is: >isolinux: Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it... >isolinux: Found something at drive = F0 >isolinux: Looks like it might be right, continuing... >isolinux: Disk Error 00 drive F0 >Boot failed: press a key to retry > >For what it's worth all of our build iso's boot perfectly and work fine on >any type of IDE equipment I've thrown at them so far, its just the SCSI >that needs some tweaking. This isn't just a case of adding support for the >53c810 controller or something else simple/similar is it drobbins? > >Also, I would note that the old 1.0_rc4_pre2 ISO I have here, boots >successfully on my SCSI setup. I think that one is based on a different >boot system with grub though. Further, I would note that the RC6 ISOS >get the SCSI BIOS to indicate that a bootable CDROM has been found >and that it will use "Non-Emulation Mode". I have found Windows NT/2000 >CDROMS to give the same notice, but they can boot OK. I have also >noticed that Windows 9x and the RC4 CD get the SCSI BIOS to say it >has found a bootable CDROM which will "Emulate CD-ROM as Floppy >Drive A:". I can use those CD's will boot with. To sum that up, I believe >that this "emulation mode" business/option, appears to have no effect on >whether the CD will boot or not, I guess its just some option in making >a bootable CDROM. Hmm I should read-up some on this isolinux stuff :) > >Ideally you could send in a quick "hey it works on this" report to the >development mailing list, or any difficulties you are experiencing so that >we can establish where the problem hardware/devices are, and make >the required fixes. I do realise that many of us are fully capable of >"working around" the problem, and adjusting locally. I do this myself >sometimes. Usually that means we dont speak up, but instead just merrily >cruise along. Alas it would be better to file a report if something could >be improved, because that way nobody gets left behind, or stuck with >a CD that wont boot for them. Mind you, I'm not saying we can make >a CD that will boot on every system, probably not. It would be going >a long way however into putting together a solid, robust, bootable build >ISO if we can manage to cover cases like mine, and possibly some other >obscure ones/combinations. With the way things are going, I wouldn't be >surprised to see this solved very soon. > >As another sidenote, my particular SCSI driver has amusingly enough >been the default pre-selected host driver inside of the kernel menuconfig >target/program for all of 2.4.x and 2.2.x series that I can remember. >Although I'm certain they decided upon that choice in order to minimise >CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX and CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX >confusion. This seems to be a pretty important chip to be supported, >as theres tonnes of cards based on it. And then theres the fact that this >is a woodchip.. *rimshot*. But I digress.. > >You may find the newest revisions of the (non)bootable ;-) ISO image in: >ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/snapshots/build/ix86-linux-gnu >As of now the latest one is "build-ix86-1.0_rc6-r9.iso". It is ~16MB long. > >The master plan I gather, is to eventually come up with a solid self-booting >build CD that contains a chroot'able build environment, along with a recent >snapshot of the portage tree, and a good selection of distfiles (probably at >least enough to do `emerge system`). With some good bug reports and more >testing this can be a reality very soon indeed! > >Another tidbit I'd like to explore, is the possibility of using the -multi option >to cdrecord when writing the ISO. Whilst I've been experimenting with it >I have noticed that unfortunately you dont seem to be able to use the newest >session you've written to the disc, only the first one you write is usable for >booting. So, you can write for example the -r9 release of the build ISO to >CD, then tomorrow you could write the -r10 release, both using the -multi >option, but only the first session is accessible/usable.. at least for booting >anyway. I gather one needs software support in the running OS before one >can access the later sessions. I'd really like to be able to add additional >releases of the build ISO to a CD, in multiple sessions, and have the newest >one be available for booting the computer. Does somebody know more >about this? > >So please *do* tell us whats up with our bootable build CD system and >your hardware. How's it working for you? > >Cheers, >Donny (aka woodchip) > > > >_______________________________________________ >gentoo-dev mailing list >gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org >http://cvs.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev > Hi, I just burned rc6-9 and was able to boot with SCSI. Didn't proceed with install but the CD did boot to root prompt. System is: AHA-2940UW Yamaha CD-RW Sony CD-R 2 Seagate UW HD's scott worley folokai@earthlink.net