* Re: [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!]
@ 2001-07-19 2:23 Viktor Lakics
2001-07-19 2:38 ` AW: " Sebastian Werner
2001-07-19 7:04 ` Chad M. Huneycutt
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Viktor Lakics @ 2001-07-19 2:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Dan,
Although AA works now, but I see your point with the speed issue. Have you
used an ebuild for compiling kde and qt on your own computer? I am using the
pre-built binaries on the rc-5 iso...
Is it possible that the difference what we are experiencing (given that you
use the same kind of video card) comes from having the pre-built binaries?
What kind of KDE and QT setup are you guys using outthere with AA problems?
I can't think of anything else...
Over the weekend I will try the NVIDIA drivers, to see whether it makes a
difference. But you said you had a working AA setup without those binary
drivers, right?
Viktor
Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I don't think it should be fixed on CVS. The original version (with
> LD_BIND_NOW set) gives much faster program loading (dynamic binding?), and
it
> works fine for me and many others. It shuold only be changed if it doesn't
> work.
> On Thursday 19 July 2001 01:04, you wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:25:35PM +0100, Viktor Lakics wrote:
> > > Dear Gentooers,
> > >
> > > Thanks for Sebastian, the AA problem is actually solved. To get AA
> > > everywhere,
> > >
> > > you need to change that line in startkde...
> > >
> > > This is obviously a bug in the script. I tried Dan's suggestion, chaged
> > > the evironment variable everywhere, no success. Then I cleaned all my
> > > changes, and realized that when I set AA on in kcontrol and restart
KDE,
> > > QT_XFT is turned on anyway...(echo $QT_XFT tells it). So the problem
is
> > > NOT the QT_XFT variable isn't being set, but something else.
> > >
> > > So again:
> > >
> > > Change
> > >
> > > > the line:
> > > > LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
> > > > to
> > > > kdeinit +kcminit
> > > > in the startkde script.
> >
> > Due to the huge volume of gentoo-dev email, I haven't been completely
> > following this post, but can we have a developer volunteer to fix this on
> > CVS? Much thanks,
>
>
> --
>
> Dan Armak
> Gentoo Linux Developer
> Matan, Israel
>
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* AW: [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!]
2001-07-19 2:23 [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!] Viktor Lakics
@ 2001-07-19 2:38 ` Sebastian Werner
2001-07-19 7:04 ` Chad M. Huneycutt
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From: Sebastian Werner @ 2001-07-19 2:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
The new loading mechanism was introduced with KDE-2.1.1 i think. If you use
a previous version startkde don't use LD_BIND_NOW.
I sometimes compile the current kde cvs snapshort. The version two week ago
seems to have the same problems. I think that the problem don't depends on
XFree, the driver or the configured options. Xfree 4 is modular. If you
compile it with XFT it will use it to build all the drivers. Also, it don't
depends on the Render-module(xtt or freetype).
A good application to try if XFT work is to lauch opera with 'QT_XFT=1
opera' If opera use AA-onts, KDE must use them, too, normally.
The problems on my system was that it don't depends on the setting which i
have selected in the KDE-font-dialog. It displays only the bitmap fonts,
every time.
I hope all these problems can be forget if KDE-2.2 will realeased...
Sebastian
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[mailto:gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org]Im Auftrag von Viktor Lakics
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2001 11:23
An: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
Betreff: Re: [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!]
Dan,
Although AA works now, but I see your point with the speed issue. Have you
used an ebuild for compiling kde and qt on your own computer? I am using the
pre-built binaries on the rc-5 iso...
Is it possible that the difference what we are experiencing (given that you
use the same kind of video card) comes from having the pre-built binaries?
What kind of KDE and QT setup are you guys using outthere with AA problems?
I can't think of anything else...
Over the weekend I will try the NVIDIA drivers, to see whether it makes a
difference. But you said you had a working AA setup without those binary
drivers, right?
Viktor
Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I don't think it should be fixed on CVS. The original version (with
> LD_BIND_NOW set) gives much faster program loading (dynamic binding?), and
it
> works fine for me and many others. It shuold only be changed if it doesn't
> work.
> On Thursday 19 July 2001 01:04, you wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:25:35PM +0100, Viktor Lakics wrote:
> > > Dear Gentooers,
> > >
> > > Thanks for Sebastian, the AA problem is actually solved. To get AA
> > > everywhere,
> > >
> > > you need to change that line in startkde...
> > >
> > > This is obviously a bug in the script. I tried Dan's suggestion,
chaged
> > > the evironment variable everywhere, no success. Then I cleaned all my
> > > changes, and realized that when I set AA on in kcontrol and restart
KDE,
> > > QT_XFT is turned on anyway...(echo $QT_XFT tells it). So the problem
is
> > > NOT the QT_XFT variable isn't being set, but something else.
> > >
> > > So again:
> > >
> > > Change
> > >
> > > > the line:
> > > > LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
> > > > to
> > > > kdeinit +kcminit
> > > > in the startkde script.
> >
> > Due to the huge volume of gentoo-dev email, I haven't been completely
> > following this post, but can we have a developer volunteer to fix this
on
> > CVS? Much thanks,
>
>
> --
>
> Dan Armak
> Gentoo Linux Developer
> Matan, Israel
>
> _______________________________________________
> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
> http://cvs.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev
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* Re: [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!]
2001-07-19 2:23 [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!] Viktor Lakics
2001-07-19 2:38 ` AW: " Sebastian Werner
@ 2001-07-19 7:04 ` Chad M. Huneycutt
2001-07-19 8:16 ` AW: " Sebastian Werner
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Chad M. Huneycutt @ 2001-07-19 7:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
Viktor Lakics wrote:
>Although AA works now, but I see your point with the speed issue. Have you
>used an ebuild for compiling kde and qt on your own computer? I am using the
>pre-built binaries on the rc-5 iso...
>
>Is it possible that the difference what we are experiencing (given that you
>use the same kind of video card) comes from having the pre-built binaries?
>
>What kind of KDE and QT setup are you guys using outthere with AA problems?
>
I had the same problem, and I compiled from sources (7-15-01 or
7-16-01), so that doesn't seem to be the problem. It may be that Dan is
using an older ebuild, though.
Chad
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* AW: [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!]
2001-07-19 7:04 ` Chad M. Huneycutt
@ 2001-07-19 8:16 ` Sebastian Werner
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Werner @ 2001-07-19 8:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
The startde-script is distriubuted with the kdebase-package. In the ebuild
it will only be copied - not changed. It seems that Dan use a old
KDE-version like kde-2.1 where kde don't use this LD_BIND feature.
Sebastian
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Von: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org
[mailto:gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org]Im Auftrag von Chad M. Huneycutt
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2001 15:00
An: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
Betreff: Re: [Re: [gentoo-dev] AA and KDE in gentoo - solved !!]
Viktor Lakics wrote:
>Although AA works now, but I see your point with the speed issue. Have you
>used an ebuild for compiling kde and qt on your own computer? I am using
the
>pre-built binaries on the rc-5 iso...
>
>Is it possible that the difference what we are experiencing (given that you
>use the same kind of video card) comes from having the pre-built binaries?
>
>What kind of KDE and QT setup are you guys using outthere with AA problems?
>
I had the same problem, and I compiled from sources (7-15-01 or
7-16-01), so that doesn't seem to be the problem. It may be that Dan is
using an older ebuild, though.
Chad
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