From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, DMARC_MISSING,FREEMAIL_FROM,INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14o0Tk-0007Yt-00 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:07:01 -0600 Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14o0TA-0007n2-00; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:06:24 +0200 Received: from helios.bagwan (320095285153-0001@[217.80.39.210]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14o0T2-1FxMe0C; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:06:16 +0200 Received: (qmail 11785 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 2001 12:49:38 -0000 Received: from sadchitananda2.bagwan (HELO gentoo.org) (achim@192.168.2.1) by helios.bagwan with SMTP; 13 Apr 2001 12:49:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3AD6C914.D8CA6C3F@gentoo.org> From: AGottinger@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new guides References: <20010409205504.B17779@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010411004710.A23682@alkaline.anarchy> <3AD3E419.8CDEF274@gentoo.org> <20010410235052.B15536@cvs.gentoo.org> <3AD3F097.77E8750D@gentoo.org> <20010411002815.D15536@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010412161317.A16521@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010413014017.B16521@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010413052441.A29405@kabbu.thehutt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 320095285153-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Reply-To: achim@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Apr 13 04:07:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:38:28 +0200 X-Archives-Salt: fdec67f8-faf3-4f0f-8e8f-60024f861691 X-Archives-Hash: f81dc14f508a634e0012c306b7a760cc "Jerry A!" wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 01:40:17AM -0600, Pete Gavin wrote: > : > : I've been looking at SWIG a bit, and I think it would be really > : helpful for this stuff. That way, we might eventually be able to make > : it so that most portage stuff is also available from perl, and anyone > : who wants to access portage from perl may do so easily. (I know some > : of you may cringe at this, but I happen to like perl :) but don't > : worry, I like python equally... both have their uses) > > Curiousity on my part. Is there any reason why we're looking to step > away from python? It appears as though the Linux/Python connection are > here to stay. Especially with ESR's new CML2 project. Gimme a link to that project please. As we go > forward, one won't even be able to rebuild the kernel w/out Python. > > Achim, have you looked at the freeze module for compiling the python > bits for the embedded devices you're working on (instead of rewriting > them in C++)? No, can I make binaries for python scripts with that? The problem I see for embedded devices, is that python requires simply too much memory. If it is possible to make standalone binaries that do eighter require all the python modules nor the python binarie, I would be intersted how huge such a binary will be. We had a discussion about allowing other languages like perl or tcl/tk to be used for ebuild. And decided that it makes more sense converting stable parts of python code to c++. Once it's all c++ we can make modules for other scripting languages. I personal prefer perl as a scripting language and did not investigate much time in learning python. But as long as daniel is the developer of ebuild it is his right do choose his preferend language for development I think. Our biggest problem is still that we can not spend all our time in gentoo development as long as we do not have sponsors. There is a install-gui in development that will use qt first, but it will be designed in a manner that the gui parts are separated from the configuration backend, so it should be easy to write ncurses or gtk frontends too. But do not expect that stuff next week. :-) BTW: Jerry, are you still headbanging or did you get gentoo working now? achim~