From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12, DMARC_MISSING,FREEMAIL_FROM,INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.81]) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14nDxT-0004W3-00 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:18:27 -0600 Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14nDwx-0004i2-07; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:17:55 +0200 Received: from helios.bagwan (320095285153-0001@[62.155.143.158]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14nDwt-0LOEsaC; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:17:51 +0200 Received: (qmail 9771 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2001 09:01:21 -0000 Received: from sadchitananda2.bagwan (HELO gentoo.org) (achim@192.168.2.1) by helios.bagwan with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 09:01:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3AD3F097.77E8750D@gentoo.org> From: AGottinger@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new guides References: <20010409205504.B17779@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010411004710.A23682@alkaline.anarchy> <3AD3E419.8CDEF274@gentoo.org> <20010410235052.B15536@cvs.gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 320095285153-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Reply-To: achim@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Apr 11 00:19:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:50:15 +0200 X-Archives-Salt: 732e4e73-efc1-41f8-b568-1f13f22c13f6 X-Archives-Hash: 44a0812aa0d49fd61b7fb1055786f583 Daniel Robbins wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:56:57AM +0200, Achim Gottinger wrote: > > > In situations where we modify aclocal or configure.in, i think it is better > > to run autoconf/... and add a patch for all modified files instead of running > > autoconf from the ebuild. This simplifies package dependencies and makes it > > possible to build all packages without autoconf/automake/m4/perl installed. > > I don't think that this really matters for packages like GNOME (after all, if > you're installing GNOME then you probably also have autoconf/Perl,etc. > installed :), but this technique would be useful for critical system packages, > like those found in sys-*. I had the following problem with glibc-2.2.2. Their configure file was not designed well and some tests failed on a system without perl (build). I liked petes suggestion to modify the root and not the leaf of the configuration, so I patched configure.in. So now I had to compile autoconf/m4/perl/libtool before I could build glibc (very bad). I think it is generally a good idea to add configure to the patch, because it is a bit confusing that the configure in work exists but does not work. So eigther it must be removed if configure.in gets modified or added to the patch. However, "emerge" should be able to sort out the > build/runtime deps perfectly in either case -- as long as the DEPEND and > RDEPEND strings are set correctly. Yes that's true. But in the above example it is a problem. > > Though I'll agree, it would be nice to have a Perl-free system (drobbins hides) Unfortunately xfree requires perl, so it whould be a xfree free system too. BTW: It whould be nice to have a python free runtime system too (nothing personal this time, so no need to run or hide :-)). This is impossible at the moment because of the env-update thing. It might be required on embedded platforms where disc space is rare (spython ~5MB). I suggest recode env-update in bash or c. achim~ > > -- > Daniel Robbins > President/CEO http://www.gentoo.org > Gentoo Technologies, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://www.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev