From: Bill Anderson <bill@noreboots.com>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Distribution Name
Date: Thu Feb 1 11:34:01 2001 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A7AFEF5.8000308@noreboots.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87lmrtliry.fsf@scooby.mysterymachine.ddts.net
Steven R. Baker wrote:
> Hi there, I'm interested in getting start with Gentoo. There are a
> couple of concerns that I have, however.
>
> First, I'm a very ardent advocate of the Free Software Movement, and
> the GNU Project, so naturally I was wondering why you decided to call
> the distribution Gentoo Linux instead of properly, Gentoo GNU/Linux?
What someone wants to call a distribution of something using the Linux
kernel is none of Stallman's affair. Linus has the trademark on Linux, and
he is the final, and sole arbiter of what you can do with the name.
Stallman can make decisions relating to 'GNU', but has no authority of the
Linux trademark, nor over what an individual decides to call their
distribution. A distribution is by definition a collection, as is thus
covered under the collection of works parts of copyright law. In fact,
this is particularly covered by the GPL, where it states that aggregation
is not covered by the GPL where the Product is not based on the GPL'd
product. Since all Linux distributions are by definition based on the
Linux Kernel, the proper base of licensing is the Linux Kernel.
In fact, on other points, the 'GNU/Linux' argument falls flat as well. the
acronym GNU stands for 'Gnus Not Unix' and as such bears no relation to a
distribution of Linux, or any other operating system. Note further, that
the use of GNU tools does not require you use the term GNU in your
product's name. As such, there is nothing improper in not doing so.
I love RMS as much as the next guy, but in this case he, and you, are not
correct.
> Also, I was wondering if there is a policy regarding licensing issues
> that you follow as a project. IE: do you keep track of which licenses
> are compatible with which? A little known fact is that the Python 2.x
> license is incompatible with the GPL, so no GPL code can be used with
> Python without explicit written permission from the author. What kind
> of safeguards do you have against this?
This 'little known fact' is false. The python license only applies to
_Python_, and developing derivatives. The license of Python is no more
relevant to what Gentoo is doing than the C/C++ licenses are. Since we are
not modifying python in any way, merely developing products using a
_language_ there is no concern for how the language itsself is licensed.
Me writinbg a python script is no more a derivative of python than you
compiling a program in C is a derivative of C. It is the author of the
code, and their license that is the sole issue with developing products
that use python.
For example, if I, Bill Anderson write a nifty python program, and you
decide you want to use some of my code, you must get _my_ permission; the
license of python is irrelevant.
Another, more concrete and relevant example:
RedHat wrote a set of python rpm libraries in python. IF, for some reason,
we wanted to use those libraries (perhaps as a base for an rpm-ebuild
converter .. oooh neat idea) we would need to look at the license that
Redhat put on their code, not the python license.
Sorry if any of this sounds harsh, or perhaps bitter, but I have been
through these issues over and over again, especially in the BigCorp I work
for, and have been in discussion with the legal dept., and some of the
parties named herein.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-01 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-29 22:19 [gentoo-dev] Distribution Name Steven R. Baker
2001-01-29 22:37 ` Jerry A!
2001-01-29 22:43 ` Steven R. Baker
2001-01-29 23:24 ` Jerry A!
2001-01-30 0:06 ` Steven R. Baker
2001-02-01 12:03 ` Bill Anderson
2001-02-01 13:31 ` drobbins
2001-01-30 11:51 ` drobbins
2001-01-30 15:02 ` Aaron Held
2001-01-30 15:24 ` Jerry A!
2001-01-30 15:42 ` Aaron Held
2001-01-30 19:46 ` Steven R. Baker
2001-02-01 11:38 ` Bill Anderson
[not found] ` <drobbins@gentoo.org>
2001-01-30 19:38 ` Steven R. Baker
2001-01-30 5:22 ` Achim Gottinger
2001-02-01 11:34 ` Bill Anderson [this message]
2001-02-01 11:53 ` Achim Gottinger
2001-02-01 18:33 ` Bill Anderson
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