From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, DKIM_ADSP_NXDOMAIN,DMARC_MISSING,INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from darwin.libc.org (unknown [206.207.111.225]) by cvs.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EC5ECDBA for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:00:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 23889 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2001 16:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO noreboots.com) (ucntcme@192.168.1.12) by 192.168.1.11 with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 16:01:30 -0000 Message-ID: <3A704D65.9070102@noreboots.com> From: Bill Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010122 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom References: <20010124234502.4D5CF51353@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010125015319.G29166@tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk> <3A700B98.A77BE85F@gottinger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jan 25 09:01:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:59:33 -0700 X-Archives-Salt: 928981b7-e2c5-4fe3-bbe9-0c571b10bfc6 X-Archives-Hash: 68162047e617044ae10015e1ada5ce25 Achim Gottinger wrote: > Thomas Flavel wrote: > > >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:01PM -0600, Bryce Porter wrote: >> >>> Tom: >>> "I'm just thinking along the lines of a minimum binary system where >>> absolutley needed, and compiling specifically everywhere else? I realise this would >>> be slow to install on slower systems, but, since we're all power users... ;) >>> >>> Seriously though, I do think this would be a nice feature, unless there's >>> some practicality reason I'm missing." >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> I think this is a great idea. I heard of a GNU/Linux distrobution that >>> when installed compiled all selected packages from source, making it the >>> most optimized you could get for your specific machine. I think it was >>> called Rock Linux or something. >> >> Not heard of it, but a quick search on google reveals the predicatable url: >> http://www.rocklinux.org, #rocklinux on irc.openprojects.net. >> >> Looks to be faily mature (at least they're past 1.0 ;), supports ppc and alpha >> as well as x86. > > > Please send me you ppc, alpha, i64, mips, sparc machines and I will do the ports. :-) > How about SSH access to an Alpha? Good enough? ;^)= > >> From what I can see it has a binary cd version, with the option >> to compile from source (the same thing I was talking about, if I understand them >> correctly). It describes it's package management as closer to FreeBSD than debian. >> It looks to be quite similar to gentoo to me, although not quite as advanced. > > > I took a look at the site and think that we need something similar to cfengine > sometimes. > > I thougth about a minimum build system too, while I had to go back to i486 from i686. > There is another project linux-from-scratch (www.lfs.org i think) that creates a > statically linked set > of packages required for build first and then builds the rest with that bin's. Such a > set would require > about 50MB and it is not difficult to make a few modified packages for that. > This build-system could be placed on a gentoo-source cd together with a snapshot of the > port-tree. > Then you whould be able to boot with the source-cd and install a build.tbz2 instead of a > sys.tbz2. > Then you can chroot to that system and build everything from sources. > Additionally this offers the possibility to build gentoo from within another > linux-distro. > > How do you guys think about that? Sounds rather cool to me. Bill