From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <320095285153-0001@t-online.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, DMARC_MISSING,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM, FROM_LOCAL_DIGITS,FROM_LOCAL_HEX,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS,INVALID_DATE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by cvs.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515D4CDBA for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:30:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.com by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14LmUi-0000lB-05; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:31:20 +0100 Received: from helios.bagwan (320095285153-0001@[62.155.143.135]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14LmUS-1C051EC; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:31:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 3551 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jan 2001 16:12:15 -0000 Received: from sadchitananda2.bagwan (HELO gottinger.de) (achim@192.168.2.1) by helios.bagwan with SMTP; 25 Jan 2001 16:12:15 -0000 Message-ID: <3A702404.789AA202@gottinger.de> From: 320095285153-0001@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tom References: <20010124234502.4D5CF51353@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010125015319.G29166@tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk> <3A700B98.A77BE85F@gottinger.de> <20010125125423.B24460@tsuny.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 320095285153-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Reply-To: achim@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Jan 25 06:31:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:03:01 +0100 X-Archives-Salt: bb98af35-323a-42f2-9ecf-2f51f02477f6 X-Archives-Hash: bbb1e75d9894d2b28d2ca945a2d9ada5 Thomas Flavel wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:18:48PM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote: > > Thomas Flavel wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:01PM -0600, Bryce Porter wrote: > > > > > > > > Tom: > > > > "I'm just thinking along the lines of a minimum binary system where > > > > absolutley needed, and compiling specifically everywhere else? I realise this would > > > > be slow to install on slower systems, but, since we're all power users... ;) > > > > > > > > Seriously though, I do think this would be a nice feature, unless there's > > > > some practicality reason I'm missing." > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > I think this is a great idea. I heard of a GNU/Linux distrobution that > > > > when installed compiled all selected packages from source, making it the > > > > most optimized you could get for your specific machine. I think it was > > > > called Rock Linux or something. > > > > > > Not heard of it, but a quick search on google reveals the predicatable url: > > > http://www.rocklinux.org, #rocklinux on irc.openprojects.net. > > > > > > Looks to be faily mature (at least they're past 1.0 ;), supports ppc and alpha > > > as well as x86. > > > > Please send me you ppc, alpha, i64, mips, sparc machines and I will do the ports. :-) > > I have access to SH3, Arm, possibly Sparc (less possibly ultrasparc :) and ppc, all of > which I would like to have running gentoo :) Cool, I think the first step is getting spython, portage and gcc-2.95.2 running. With that it should be possible to build that minium-build system I described below for that targets. > > > > > > > From what I can see it has a binary cd version, with the option > > > to compile from source (the same thing I was talking about, if I understand them > > > correctly). It describes it's package management as closer to FreeBSD than debian. > > > It looks to be quite similar to gentoo to me, although not quite as advanced. > > > > I took a look at the site and think that we need something similar to cfengine > > sometimes. > > That looks like a great idea; I was wondering about something similar for configuring > applications; i.e. some way to save a "theme" for the applications I use (e.g. colours > for lynx matching the colours for man pages etc if you see what I mean) You mean the user-specific dor-config-files? > > > > > > I thougth about a minimum build system too, while I had to go back to i486 from i686. > > There is another project linux-from-scratch (www.lfs.org i think) that creates a > > statically linked set > > of packages required for build first and then builds the rest with that bin's. Such a > > set would require > > about 50MB and it is not difficult to make a few modified packages for that. > > This build-system could be placed on a gentoo-source cd together with a snapshot of the > > port-tree. > > Then you whould be able to boot with the source-cd and install a build.tbz2 instead of a > > sys.tbz2. > > Then you can chroot to that system and build everything from sources. > > Additionally this offers the possibility to build gentoo from within another > > linux-distro. > > > > How do you guys think about that? > > Sounds excellent to me :) I have nearly finished that :-) ~achim > > > - Tom > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://www.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev