[gentoo-dev] First impressions

[gentoo-dev] First impressions

[Dooley, Ryan]

Wow :-)

It's very cool to see a BSD like ports system for Linux and then
to have a distribution tacked on top of it is even better.

I'm not going to have a chance to really play with it until tomorrow
as I'm quite busy today, but I did have a couple of questions...

1) I noticed that there were a few things in /usr such as man,
   info, doc, etc. that under the fsstnd should be in /usr/share.
   Was this intentional?

2) Why use /opt?

3) Any chance of getting Kerberos in the base system?  Here at
   the university of missouri, we use kerberos and were quite
   pleased when RedHat started to ship with kerberos bundled.
   I believe that kerberos is no longer governed by export
   restrictions in the US.  I could be wrong though and I guess
   that would be the reason.

As soon as I get more time, I'd definatly contribute to gentoo.  I
think this is a solid idea and I'd like to see that gentoo suceeds!

Cheers,
	Ryan

Re: [gentoo-dev] First impressions

[drobbins]

On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:05:18PM -0600, Dooley, Ryan  wrote:

> 1) I noticed that there were a few things in /usr such as man,
>    info, doc, etc. that under the fsstnd should be in /usr/share.
>    Was this intentional?

Of course it was intentional :) However, we do plan to gradually move
towards FHS 2.1 compliance, so we'll be using more of /usr/share in the
future.  Compatibility symlinks will probably exist as well.

> 2) Why use /opt?

Well, it too is part of FHS 2.1, and is a good way to modularize major optional
subsystems like KDE and GNOME.

> 3) Any chance of getting Kerberos in the base system?  Here at
>    the university of missouri, we use kerberos and were quite
>    pleased when RedHat started to ship with kerberos bundled.
>    I believe that kerberos is no longer governed by export
>    restrictions in the US.  I could be wrong though and I guess
>    that would be the reason.

I'd love to add Kerberos to the base distribution; however, since I don't use
Kerberos I'd don't think I'm the one to do it.  I would definitely support
the addition of Kerberos 5 to Gentoo Linux if anyone would like to tackle
the project.

> As soon as I get more time, I'd definatly contribute to gentoo.  I
> think this is a solid idea and I'd like to see that gentoo suceeds!

Thanks very much and we look forward to your contributions!

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
President/CEO					http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

[gentoo-dev] first impressions

[Guillaume Lefevre]

Hello,

I've discovered gentoo a few days ago and it looks very promising, but 
it's still very rought
on the edges, I havent completly switched to it but it's under process.

A few comments:
1) the CD image:
   - an SMP kernel would be nice.
   - missing gunzip links disables keyboard layout (nasty for non qwerty 
users) and manpages
   - install procedure on the cd
   - md5sum of the iso image
2) the ebuild system, it great! but:
   - why linking to ftp.ibiblio.org as primary site?
   - when hordes of maniacs and fans will charge to it, it won't be 
pretty :-)
   - maybe a list of mirrors by continents?
   - why java depends on x11, I need it for cocoon, I know I can edit 
the script by hand, but...
3) willing to help on my spare time (between college and work):
   - docs
   - ebuild scripts
   - php, sql, python

cheers

Re: [gentoo-dev] first impressions

[Achim Gottinger]

Guillaume Lefevre wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've discovered gentoo a few days ago and it looks very promising, but
> it's still very rought
> on the edges, I havent completly switched to it but it's under process.
>
> A few comments:
> 1) the CD image:
>    - an SMP kernel would be nice.
>    - missing gunzip links disables keyboard layout (nasty for non qwerty
> users) and manpages

This issue is fixed

>
>    - install procedure on the cd
>    - md5sum of the iso image
> 2) the ebuild system, it great! but:
>    - why linking to ftp.ibiblio.org as primary site?

Because the original locations do not keep older versions.

>
>    - when hordes of maniacs and fans will charge to it, it won't be
> pretty :-)
>    - maybe a list of mirrors by continents?

Hmm not bad there could be a script that sorts this list in order of
reachability.

>
>    - why java depends on x11, I need it for cocoon, I know I can edit
> the script by hand, but...

Some of the java-libs in the package depend on X, we will have the
possibility to build mulitiple subpackages
from one ebuild, then such things can be separated.
I'm currently fixing a few issues in apache/tomcat/cocoon here. Checkout
from cvs in an hour an you don't need
to configure anything besides adding "-DTOMCAT -DCOCOON" to the var
HTTPD_OPTS in /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd.
you must run "ebuild apache... configure" "ebuild tomcat... configure" and
things should be configured.
The you can access the cocoon-examples on
http://yourhost/cocoon/samples/index.xml


>
> 3) willing to help on my spare time (between college and work):
>    - docs
>    - ebuild scripts
>    - php, sql, python

Fine :-)

>
>

Bye Achim

>
> cheers
>
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