From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <320095285153-0001@t-online.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,FROM_LOCAL_DIGITS, FROM_LOCAL_HEX,FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by cvs.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F106A24F34 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:02:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.com by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14H7bY-0006g7-07; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:03:08 +0100 Received: from helios.bagwan (320095285153-0001@[62.155.143.223]) by fwd03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14H7bS-0UKKQaC; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:03:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 6368 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jan 2001 19:43:48 -0000 Received: from sadchitananda2.bagwan (HELO gottinger.de) (achim@192.168.2.1) by helios.bagwan with SMTP; 12 Jan 2001 19:43:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3A5F3247.66C99DA7@gottinger.de> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:35:19 +0100 From: 320095285153-0001@t-online.de (Achim Gottinger) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Python Probs References: <20010111221517.A6248@kabbu.akopia.com> <20010111203238.A12571@cvs.gentoo.org> <20010111223449.A11743@kabbu.akopia.com> <20010111203921.C12571@cvs.gentoo.org> <3A5EB8DD.FEE266C4@gottinger.de> <20010112033108.A28324@kabbu.akopia.com> <3A5ED76B.B5A9B4FF@gottinger.de> <20010112095652.F20711@cvs.gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 320095285153-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Reply-To: achim@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 848eb940-8ee0-4bc4-82be-19b53f9d189f X-Archives-Hash: cf90d9abdb115db557fba967c2c34f1c drobbins@gentoo.org wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:07:39AM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote: > > > Hmm, I always thought sys should contain everything that's required for > > building itself and everything that's required for a minimum runtime system. > > dev-lang/python includes tcl-tk support, sys-devel/python not otherwise we > > must must xfree/tcl-tk to sys which is a bad idea. > > Hrm, I forgot about this problem since I compiled sys-devel/python on a system > without tcl-tk or X. > > > ldd /usr/bin/python > libreadline.so.4.1 => /usr/lib/libreadline.so.4.1 (0x4001b000) > libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40041000) > libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x4006e000) > libdb-3.1.so => /usr/lib/libdb-3.1.so (0x400b2000) > libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4012a000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x40138000) > libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4014d000) > libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0x40150000) > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40153000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40171000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) > > > I know this may sound weird at first, but I'd rather disable X11 and tcl/tk > support in sys-devel/python, and create a *third* python optional package -- > python-x11. I don't want to force people to install Xfree86 and tcl/tk just > so they can get a reasonably complete python implementation. This kind of > thing would be a pain for people who are setting up a server without X at all, > but need a complete python to run their scripts. > > Or, we can simply tell people that if you want X and tcl-tk support in your > python, just remerge sys-devel/python after you have X and tcl-tk installed. > the python configure program will detect that they're there, and link against > the new libraries. Of course, then we need a transparent method for you so > that when you're building packages, your sys-devel/python isn't linked against > X and tcl-tk stuff and will work on a base system. > Do we get a problem if we change spython to resist in /usr and then merge over libs from dev-lang/python? If not we can drop sys-devel/python and if someone needs python he can use dev-lang/python with or without tcl-tk/X support (use tcl-tk). > > -- > Daniel Robbins > President/CEO http://www.gentoo.org > Gentoo Technologies, Inc. > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://www.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev