From: Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, Ben Kohler <bkohler@gentoo.org>,
x86@gentoo.org, release@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo i486 support
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:19:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38abfec8-b0db-cb2d-9928-93dcba13cf40@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5cc35530-3d96-1a0f-b484-73ea3d58bed5@gentoo.org>
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On 08/22/2018 08:26 AM, Ben Kohler wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> For some time now, we've been shipping broken i486 stage3s that do not
> run on pre-i686 hardware [1]. Due to a change in catalyst [2], we no
> longer set CXXFLAGS in the default make.conf, so the x86 profiles' (imho
> wrong/broken) defaults [3] kick in.
>
> I'd like to get this fixed, and I see 3 possible solutions, listed in
> order of my own preference:
>
> 1) Adjust x86 profile defaults to drop the problematic -march=i686. This
> would be more in line with amd64 profiles (et al), which set no -march
> value so it can run on any hardware for this arch.
>
> 2) Patch catalyst to start setting CXXFLAGS again. Rather than roll
> back to exactly CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" again, it's been suggested that we
> start setting COMMON_FLAGS, and CFLAGS="${COMMON_FLAGS}"
> CXXFLAGS=${COMMON_FLAGS}" etc. I prepared such a patch a while back
> [4], which seems to work but may need a bit of updating.
>
> 3) Drop i486 support. We're only pretending to have support now, we
> could officially stop building these broken stages completely.
>
> Personally I think #1 is the most technically correct and least amount
> of work. The only result will be slightly less optimized builds for
> people who choose not to customize *FLAGS at all in make.conf. But this
> is correct behavior. What we have now is akin to setting -march=core2
> on amd64 stage3 and saying "oops it doesn't work on early 64bit AMD
> cpus, but oh well most people have newer and will appreciate the
> optimization".
Agreed.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Ben
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/654080
> [2]
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/catalyst.git/commit/?id=b409bd9bb4b50f69a555e4e148057ade86a7ed16
>
> [3]
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/profiles/arch/x86/make.defaults
>
> [4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/575446#c4
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-22 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-22 12:26 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo i486 support Ben Kohler
2018-08-22 13:08 ` Rich Freeman
2018-08-22 13:23 ` Mart Raudsepp
2018-08-22 14:22 ` Peter Stuge
2018-08-22 20:27 ` R0b0t1
2018-08-22 20:39 ` Rich Freeman
2018-08-25 11:07 ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-08-22 13:21 ` James Le Cuirot
2018-08-22 14:30 ` Mike Gilbert
2018-08-22 15:27 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-08-22 19:20 ` Matt Turner
2018-08-22 19:27 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-08-22 20:19 ` Richard Yao [this message]
2018-08-24 13:19 ` Kent Fredric
2018-08-24 13:57 ` Mike Gilbert
2018-08-24 14:13 ` Rich Freeman
2018-08-24 14:40 ` Kent Fredric
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