From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdJ5I-0008RK-2J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:08:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAJ36YXP002131; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:06:34 GMT Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.201]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAJ31VAL002604 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:01:31 GMT Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id h2so17896nfe for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:01:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CFOGT/vbXzXgv+YvaG+BjrOFatHsQNqccQtY95VRYMG0RSSQsN0gThH7UStfCdVyO3hFLy62+Cfo4Zcvg7E28YkfCfUsog4BURJz5G7hXhouMTDCHzH2kT1LbG5iZ/NohFGN8NJuHhkkzzzilcuTEu7/9uesiqf6mqwf+wMHkzI= Received: by 10.48.238.19 with SMTP id l19mr58302nfh; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.143.15 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:01:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36babadf0511181901kb059338v819ee4935c343fb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:01:31 +0000 From: George Prowse To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain In-Reply-To: <20051119025317.2a8fbddf@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7711_19233611.1132369291313" References: <1132333748.8524.9.camel@localhost> <20051119003803.GD12958@dst.grantgoodyear.org> <1044169158.20051119031533@gentoo.org> <200511191334.10158.cshields@gentoo.org> <20051119025317.2a8fbddf@snowdrop.home> X-Archives-Salt: 08a1f5de-5b62-4429-a52e-19e389992fb6 X-Archives-Hash: 7c0960f7f35533ace56ec8783dcb37d7 ------=_Part_7711_19233611.1132369291313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline As these would be @gentoo.org people they would be easier for devrel to tackle. Making them closer under the gentoo wing just makes them easier to dicipline. On 11/19/05, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:34:10 -0800 Corey Shields > wrote: > | Why not ditch the idea of yellow-starred "arch testers" and make it > | easy for *all* users to participate in the stability-validation of > | all of our packages? > > We've seen why this won't work in the past... Too few users know how to > do proper testing. We've had "please keyword, works for me" bugs for > things that will always segfault on startup. We've had several people > who think it'd be clever to automate testing reports. We've got enough > ricers out there that clearly broken things would end up getting "works > for me" spammed even more than they are already... > > -- > Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Look! Shiny things!) > Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org > Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm > > > > ------=_Part_7711_19233611.1132369291313 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline As these would be @gentoo.org people they= would be easier for devrel to tackle. Making them closer under the gentoo wing just makes them easier to dicipline.

On 11/19/05, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:34:10 -0800 Corey Shields <cshields@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| Why not ditch t= he idea of yellow-starred "arch testers" and make it
| easy fo= r *all* users to participate in the stability-validation of
| all of our packages?

We've seen why this won't work in the pas= t... Too few users know how to
do proper testing. We've had "please= keyword, works for me" bugs for
things that will always segfault o= n startup. We've had several people
who think it'd be clever to automate testing reports. We've got enough<= br>ricers out there that clearly broken things would end up getting "w= orks
for me" spammed even more than they are already...

--
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Look! Shiny things!)
Mail = ;           : ciaran= m at gentoo.org
Web   &= nbsp;         : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm




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