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From: George Prowse <cokehabit@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain
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Actually "staff" gives the ideal ambiguity that is needed for these
placements. The need to seperate developers from staff who have seperate
jobs to do is an acute one.

At the moment the @gentoo.org <http://gentoo.org> address is seen as a
developer one but as you mentioned the word "staff" is already used to
describe forums staff and devrel, some of which dont develop for Gentoo. A
solution for that could be to give all developers a
@dev.gentoo.org<http://dev.gentoo.org>address but seeing as developers
are by far the biggest group with that
address it would be silly to. A better way to have it is to call
non-developers "staff" and give them a @staff.g.o address.

This addressing would also be useful for the future when people are used by
Gentoo in other areas like specifically for management, PR or even sales;
basically any volunteer who adds to Gentoo in a non-developmental role.

George

On 11/18/05, Wernfried Haas <amne@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:09:07AM -0600, Homer Parker wrote:
> > Now that GLEP 41 (AT/HT) has passed, we need to designate a subdomain
> > for their email. This will cover AT/HT's as well as forum help, so need=
s
> > to be generic. So to start with let me throw a couple out:
>
> Just for the record and to hopefully not revive that whole discussion
> about different types of developers/staff again: Forums
> moderators/admins have @gentoo.org <http://gentoo.org> email addresses an=
d
> aren't really
> affected by that subdomain. Also the term staff is already taken by
> forums staff and infra/devrel staff (if there are folks that aren't
> full developers among them), so adding staff.gentoo.org<http://staff.gent=
oo.org>for the AT and
> similar ones may be even more confusing.
> Imo ht.gentoo.org <http://ht.gentoo.org> would sound quite useful, but ma=
y
> be not generic
> enough (was a mentioned as requirement somewhere
> iirc). @assist.gentoo.org <http://assist.gentoo.org> sounds ok, personall=
y
> i think aide@g.o
> sounds nice.
>
> cheers,
> Wernfried
>
> --
> Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org
> Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org
> IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org
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Actually &quot;staff&quot; gives the ideal ambiguity that is needed for the=
se
placements. The need to seperate developers from staff who have
seperate jobs to do is an acute one. <br>
<br>
At the moment the @<a href=3D"http://gentoo.org">gentoo.org</a> address is =
seen as a developer one but as
you mentioned the word &quot;staff&quot; is already used to describe forums=
 staff
and devrel, some of which dont develop for Gentoo. A solution for that
could be to give all developers a @<a href=3D"http://dev.gentoo.org">dev.ge=
ntoo.org</a> address but seeing as
developers are by far the biggest group with that address it would be
silly to. A better way to have it is to call non-developers &quot;staff&quo=
t; and
give them a @staff.g.o address.<br>
<br>
This addressing would also be useful for the future when people are
used by Gentoo in other areas like specifically for management, PR or
even sales; basically any volunteer who adds to Gentoo in a
non-developmental role.<br>
<br>
George<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11/18/05, <b class=3D"gma=
il_sendername">Wernfried Haas</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:amne@gentoo.org">am=
ne@gentoo.org</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:09:07AM -0600, Homer Parker wrote:<br>&gt;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now that GLEP 41 (AT/HT) has passed, we need=
 to designate a subdomain<br>&gt; for their email. This will cover AT/HT's =
as well as forum help, so needs
<br>&gt; to be generic. So to start with let me throw a couple out:<br><br>=
Just for the record and to hopefully not revive that whole discussion<br>ab=
out different types of developers/staff again: Forums<br>moderators/admins =
have @
<a href=3D"http://gentoo.org">gentoo.org</a> email addresses and aren't rea=
lly<br>affected by that subdomain. Also the term staff is already taken by<=
br>forums staff and infra/devrel staff (if there are folks that aren't<br>
full developers among them), so adding <a href=3D"http://staff.gentoo.org">=
staff.gentoo.org</a> for the AT and<br>similar ones may be even more confus=
ing.<br>Imo <a href=3D"http://ht.gentoo.org">ht.gentoo.org</a> would sound =
quite useful, but may be not generic
<br>enough (was a mentioned as requirement somewhere<br>iirc). @<a href=3D"=
http://assist.gentoo.org">assist.gentoo.org</a> sounds ok, personally i thi=
nk <a href=3D"mailto:aide@g.o">aide@g.o</a><br>sounds nice.<br><br>cheers,<=
br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Wernfried<br><br>--<br>Wern=
fried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org<br>Gentoo Forums: <a href=3D"htt=
p://forums.gentoo.org">http://forums.gentoo.org</a><br>IRC: #gentoo-forums =
on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org
<br>--<br><a href=3D"mailto:gentoo-dev@gentoo.org">gentoo-dev@gentoo.org</a=
> mailing list<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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