From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IwbIY-00025f-2r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:34:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lAQAWbZP014617; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:32:37 GMT Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.230]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAQATLNP009710 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:29:22 GMT Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so282664nze for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:29:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3fDmBFXs467W8Rz7I7Nr+caqlfjTap2is71GvAzMTsc=; b=RZsUT7yJw+CGRlQ91S2lqcLZ6GetDfIdzbjfpmnj/jdA+bdYkOXCk3EhcRSczskpp+yEGvQrtHgtQGpOnCnaNyN5kEhmihM4S1RnfU3zUJJwRUB/YEzrCEh1ntyON08d3DDy3NZ37jPVYg/MlvZCfALAy7lqLD92wsGhZN+LNEo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qyXbaU229CyGzh0miQtJIASpsChi61ccMtCKOVJgSG7pJn4e/YmSmJr7LNCMHdegmguqPX4E0MAvjyPzZdSeK53LnxsJcihWkFrfcPyCtB+KQbLWOV8nPyZjA/OscwPa0bKNEuByzeAOm6qAqZcHkO/+ZHuQC8Wbz4r3BtM9DuA= Received: by 10.142.231.7 with SMTP id d7mr224777wfh.1196072958001; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.102.16 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:29:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <350fc7cf0711260229q4a872341h700570556a3f6920@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:29:17 -0500 From: "Andrey Falko" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted bugcount In-Reply-To: <474A95E4.6000906@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9233_5552954.1196072957973" References: <474A95E4.6000906@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 77fc5c94-f001-45cc-b22e-96f7412c8e38 X-Archives-Hash: 90926d1419f342af41e5559ec3a2baea ------=_Part_9233_5552954.1196072957973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Nov 26, 2007 4:46 AM, Markus Ullmann wrote: > Hi fellows, > > when taking a look at the open bug count for bugs assigned to > maintainer-wanted (2450 at the time of writing), it seems pretty obvious > that we really can't handle all of them, at least not without growing at > least two dozen devs to maintain it properly. > > As I highly doubt this will happen within a week, we have to make a > decision how to proceed with this stuff. So what options do we have? > These come to mind: > > a) WONTFIX them within 4 or 8 weeks without picking them up > b) reassign them to herds (some herds are on CC) and have them > respond withing 4-8 weeks and give a yey or boo. > c) let interested users move it to sunrise (some of them are there) > so that the ebuilds are at least at our QA level we maintain for > gentoo-x86 and are there to be picked up by devs if they're > interested > > If you have more options or comments, I'd like to hear about them, as we > definitely have to do something there. > F'up is set to gentoo-project as this is more a political thing. > > Greetz > -Jokey > > > Hi everyone, I did the "Collective Maintenance" project this summer: http://code.google.com/soc/2007/gentoo/appinfo.html?csaid=2881CA66D3587EA2 My vision was to move things in to a direction where the "maintainer-wanted" packages would be collectively maintained without the need for a specific herd or maintainer. To get to this vision, I set out to create a web interface that would allow work to be coordinated in an organized, efficient, and by-demand manner. Here is where I am currently at with that interface: http://afalko.homelinux.net/tskdemo/ I think the current state of the interface is not going to allow for enough organization. My fear is that it will turn into an unnavigable dumping-ground when a lot of tasks/"maintainer-wanted" bugs are added to the list. I am one year from earning at B.S. degree in Industrial Engineering and my requirement this school year is to complete an IE design project. I was able to get a group of four together to work on redesigning the interface. My group members have been generating some excellent ideas so far. I am optimistic that the end product will allow my vision to be achieved. I will push to get the interface ready before the end of May 2008. So in sum, I guess you can add a fourth option to the list: wait until the end of May 2008 for the completion/deployment of an interface for collectively maintaining packages. Or even a fifth option: use the current interface right now and upgrade in May 2008 to a re-designed revision. Best regards, Andrey Falko ------=_Part_9233_5552954.1196072957973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Nov 26, 2007 4:46 AM, Markus Ullmann <jokey@gentoo.org> wrote:
Hi fellows,

when taking a look at the open bug count for bugs assigned to
maintainer-wanted (2450 at the time of writing), it seems pretty obvious
that we really can't handle all of them, at least not without growing at
least two dozen devs to maintain it properly.

As I highly doubt this will happen within a week, we have to make a
decision how to proceed with this stuff. So what options do we have?
These come to mind:

a) WONTFIX them within 4 or 8 weeks without picking them up
b) reassign them to herds (some herds are on CC) and have them
  respond withing 4-8 weeks and give a yey or boo.
c) let interested users move it to sunrise (some of them are there)
  so that the ebuilds are at least at our QA level we maintain for
  gentoo-x86 and are there to be picked up by devs if they're
  interested

If you have more options or comments, I'd like to hear about them, as we
definitely have to do something there.
F'up is set to gentoo-project as this is more a political thing.

Greetz
-Jokey


Hi everyone,

I did the "Collective Maintenance" project this summer: http://code.google.com/soc/2007/gentoo/appinfo.html?csaid=2881CA66D3587EA2

My vision was to move things in to a direction where the "maintainer-wanted" packages would be collectively maintained without the need for a specific herd or maintainer. To get to this vision, I set out to create a web interface that would allow work to be coordinated in an organized, efficient, and by-demand manner. Here is where I am currently at with that interface: http://afalko.homelinux.net/tskdemo/

I think the current state of the interface is not going to allow for enough organization. My fear is that it will turn into an unnavigable dumping-ground when a lot of tasks/"maintainer-wanted" bugs are added to the list. I am one year from earning at B.S. degree in Industrial Engineering and my requirement this school year is to complete an IE design project. I was able to get a group of four together to work on redesigning the interface. My group members have been generating some excellent ideas so far. I am optimistic that the end product will allow my vision to be achieved. I will push to get the interface ready before the end of May 2008.

So in sum, I guess you can add a fourth option to the list: wait until the end of May 2008 for the completion/deployment of an interface for collectively maintaining packages. Or even a fifth option: use the current interface right now and upgrade in May 2008 to a re-designed revision.

Best regards,
Andrey Falko
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