From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28876 invoked from network); 23 May 2004 15:40:18 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by parrot.ussg.indiana.edu with SMTP; 23 May 2004 15:40:18 +0000 Received: from parrot.ussg.indiana.edu ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BRv5G-0007Fo-6F for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 23 May 2004 15:40:18 +0000 Received: (qmail 15870 invoked by uid 89); 23 May 2004 15:40:17 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 9209 invoked from network); 23 May 2004 15:40:17 +0000 Message-ID: <33664.68.78.45.146.1085326812.squirrel@webmail.neoturbine.net> In-Reply-To: <1085321100.8753.277.camel@newkid.milsson.nu> References: <200405201846.37173.cbrewer@stealthaccess.net> <33709.68.78.66.41.1085179258.squirrel@webmail.neoturbine.net> <1085182035.8753.188.camel@newkid.milsson.nu> <200405221402.34584.stuart@gentoo.org> <1085321100.8753.277.camel@newkid.milsson.nu> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 10:40:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph Booker" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stuff that makes people mad X-Archives-Salt: 018a3acd-bfb9-4528-8ee4-97f1cfc21afc X-Archives-Hash: 81de0d89cb2d58c06c3274ab03eee859 John Nilsson said: im tring to reply to 3 posts at once, so about your other post considering when a ./configure scripts fails on a dependacy, remember that the ./configure scripts are misleading, its sorta like a DEPEND, doesn't help us in terms of the RDEPEND, PDEPEND, etc, and the optional stuff, we would wind up having to have ebuilds for *alot* of packages, even ones that follow your syste > If the data is important to the developers and/or most of the users it > would probably be accurate enough. So any implementation has to provide > value for more than Gentoo users. > Moving the maintainer responsibility upstream and having more than > gentooers use it does mean more eyes on the data. this data is already present to the developers and/or users, its called a README. From an upstream maintainer points of view, it makes more sense to relaeas rpms instead of ebuilds or your system. Either way it has to be converted so some distro can use it > I don't see what this has to do with the FHS. A w3c forum seems more > suitable. However the people most experience with dependency resolving > with regards to package types and stages, from development to > deployment, are the Gentoo developers. The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) develops interoperable technologies (specifications, guidelines, software, and tools) to lead the Web to its full potential. This has *nothing* to do with the w3c. The IEEE will make the standard of ethernet that connects you to your broadband connection (if you got it), other people define the TCP/IP protocal, others define the HTTP protocal, the W3C define the langauage (xml,css,xhtml,svg,etc), the program choices how to implent these thigns. if this was a webservice running off some port, then you would use SOAP and such, if this was parsed web pages, you'd use the (x)html standard, if this was raw data and its metadata, you'd use soem form (standard or not) of xml. but this is not stuff that gets transfered over the web. What you are talking about is a software standard, weither the data is transfered through the web doens't matter, its more somethign that you think should be a standard for all *nix programs. that is far beyond the w3c's scope as an internet standard organization. In all honestly i dont think it has anything to do with FHS either, unless thats a bad typo for FSF, but im not familar much with what the FHS does other then the basic stuff Mr. Parker: Surly you've been very over-enthusiatitic about something before. I think its perferable to explain and try to convine why its not pratical then try to tell him to give it up. Its not like hes disrupting any other conversations or anything. -- Joe Booker -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list