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From: Michael Everitt <gentoo@veremit.xyz>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 00:14:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30114cca-2851-4c22-31f6-575eb851ac88@veremit.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191026223555.GA16818@linux1.home>


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On 26/10/19 23:35, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:17:18AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 11:14 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 05:59 Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:03:39 -0700
>>>> Georgy Yakovlev <gyakovlev@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> not used anymore
>>>>>
>>>>> Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/695698
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Georgy Yakovlev <gyakovlev@gentoo.org>
>>>> Its likely this removal will cause the same kinds of problems faced by
>>>> the recent virtual/pam removal, just its more insidious, as the
>>>> dependency on the virtual is hidden away inside an eclass.
>>>>
>>>> But this still means that anything users have already installed will
>>>> still depend on this, and without --changed-deps=y, it will break
>>>> portage's resolution of anything currently installed using this crate.
>>>>
>>>> You can work-around this by -r1 bumping everything that used this
>>>> eclass .... but this just goes to show why there's policy against
>>>> eclasses changing the dependencies of their consumers without any
>>>> consumer involvement.
>>>>
>>> In most if not all cases, this is just a build-time dependency. Do we
>>> really have all these problems for build-time only dependencies?
>>>
>> Yes.  Because of --with-bdeps.
> I disagree, build-time dependencies can change in place because they
> only affect the build. The problem with virtual/pam was that it was a
> runtime dependency as well.
>
> William
The problem is that portage defaults to --with-bdeps=y, so any emerging of
packages now triggers anything that has a build-dep change, unless, as
previously stated, you exclude that case or change the defaults.



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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-26 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-25 22:03 [gentoo-dev] RFC: cargo.eclass changes and virtual/cargo retirement Georgy Yakovlev
2019-10-25 22:03 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/3] cargo.eclass: do not use virtual/cargo anymore Georgy Yakovlev
2019-10-25 22:03 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/3] virtual/cargo: drop virtual Georgy Yakovlev
2019-10-26  3:59   ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-26  4:24     ` Michael Everitt
2019-10-26  6:34       ` Francesco Riosa
2019-10-26  7:17         ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-26  9:14     ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2019-10-26  9:17       ` Michał Górny
2019-10-26 22:35         ` William Hubbs
2019-10-26 23:14           ` Michael Everitt [this message]
2019-10-26 23:55             ` William Hubbs
2019-10-27  1:42               ` Michael Everitt
2019-10-27 10:09                 ` James Le Cuirot
2019-10-27  7:36               ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-27 17:05                 ` William Hubbs
2019-10-27 21:18                   ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-28 15:34                     ` William Hubbs
2019-10-29 16:43                       ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-29 16:48                       ` Michał Górny
2019-10-29 17:27                         ` William Hubbs
2019-10-30  8:19                           ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-30 14:26                             ` William Hubbs
2019-10-30 14:28                               ` William Hubbs
2019-10-30 14:49                               ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-30 15:52                                 ` William Hubbs
2019-10-30 20:49                                   ` Kent Fredric
2019-10-25 22:03 ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 3/3] cargo.eclass: use verbose cargo invocation Georgy Yakovlev

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