Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for kde3 beta etc.

[Sebastian Werner <sebastian@werner-productions.de>]

Am 24.12.2001 10:59:02, schrieb Guido Bakker <guidob@gentoo.org>:

>
>That's why kde should install in its own directory... It's too big, just like 
>X11R6...

Yes, I agree. I would like to see kde in /opt/kde-${ver} or /usr/kde-${ver} like xfree.
The most libs that kde-use are kde-specific and will never have a function in other applications.
It's much easierer to manage multiple kde-version in full different trees...
and the system now to manually compile packages with:
KDEDIR=/usr/lib/kde-libs-${ver} ./configure --prefix=/usr
i very very ugly. Some packages of kde-apps search header files in /usr
not in $KDEDIR and then fail. I have created while do this with many apps some 
symlinks. But this is against the multi-version strategy

Regards

Sebastian Werner


>
>--
>Guido
>
>sön 2001-12-23 klockan 15.07 skrev Dan Armak:
>> On Sunday 23 December 2001 15:44, you wrote:
>> > That is why I'm against putting untested early-beta software in the
>> > packagesystem. Because no matter how much unsupported they are, we
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>will
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>> > always end up support it.
>>
>> Well, I don't think kde could break anything but kde apps. And I'm
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>willing to
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>> support the beta ebuilds.
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>I wasn't talking about just KDE, but if we put KDE in I can't see why we
>couldn't put all alpha-releases. And others might break things. So can
>KDE3 if it installs over other files (like pilot-link installing over
>glibc and stuff).
>
>And what I'm talking about here is not that the actual code is beta
>(since very much of what is in portage now is "beta"). I'm talking about
>beta-releases (which are only meant for developers of KDE/GNOME/foo,
>depending on what kind of packages it is).
>
>> Of course I'd put up a 'don't use unless you know what you're doing'
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>notice,
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>> and mask them thoroughly. And support would be probably slower/more
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>sparse,
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>> but not necessarily so since I'll probably be using kde3 myself all
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>the time
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>> before long, and I know some other people will do so too before the
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>final
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>> release.
>
>Yes probably, and that is what frightens me.
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>> As for problems that are rooted in kde3 as such (not just beta
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>trouble), the
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>> more input and testers the better - as long as they understand that
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>it's not
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>> *supposed* to be stable. As I've said, better solve these now than
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>when
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>> kde3-final comes out.
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>Problems that come out of your ebuilds, yes, but really, if the tarballs
>used had been tested before being made available in Portage the job of
>finding errors in the ebuilds would be less.
>
>Regards,
>  Mikael Hallendal
>
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